The bandplans are made by Hams, not the FCC and there are many of them. California has both low in/hi out and hi in/low out repeater pairs on UHF. Some states use 20 kHz on 146-148 with most using 15. Same on 144.5-145.5.
Someone can have good engineering practice using what some band plans call simplex frequencies for a repeater. Not using avialable frequencies that have little or no usage would not. The respect for bandplans comes primarily for interfernce causing problems. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Glenn Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/10/14 Sun AM 09:07:31 CDT >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater >Trustee, K6B > >Sorry but band plans are very much supported by the FCC as being in >conformance with Part 97. > >" Section 97.101(a) of the Amateur Radio Service rules refers to "good >engineering and good amateur practice"--considered to refer to maintaining >the highest standards of engineering and on-the-air comportment. > >According to FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth, good amateur practice >means: Among other things "respecting band plans..." > >This is not a mere gentlemans agreement as it were. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright >Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:24 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater >Trustee, K6B > >Band plans have 2 requirements...FCC part 97 and gentlemens agreements. The >latter has no legal basis. > >on 2 m repeaters can by FCC 97 use 144.5-145.5 and 146-148. The gentlemens >agreement may make some freqs simplex or for repeater operation, but still >one can use for repeaters. Simplex is use so little in many areas and 146.52 >and maybe a few others in most areas might be used, but are perfectly legal >for repeater use. > >It looks as if the 146.400/147.435 would be acceptable by most and certainly >by FCC 97. If it works for the community it is in it is for the better. > >73, ron, n9ee/r > >>From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> > >>Date: 2007/10/13 Sat PM 11:17:19 CDT >>To: [email protected] >><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >>Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater >>Trustee, K6BIV, Responds to NFCC Letter to the FCC > >> >> >>On Oct 13, 2007, at 8:27 PM, kk2ed wrote: >> >>> I'm not condoning such operations, but a Band Plan is just that - a >>> band plan. If the emitter is otherwise within regulations, a repeater >>> on simplex channels may be legal, provided it is under proper >>> control. It is similar to an uncoordinated repeater. Unless it is >>> causing willful interference, it is not illegal. >>> >>> Such practices may not be very popular among the local hams. Bad >>> practice, yes. Illegal, no. >> >>Wrong. Review FCC Part 97.205(b). >> >>http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/c.html#205 >><http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/c.html#205> >> >>Repeaters have specific frequencies they are allowed to operate on, and >>are one of the only types of Amateur Stations with an "exclusionary" >>rule in Part 97 saying that they can only operate in specific frequency >>allocations. >> >>If those "simplex" channels fall outside the frequencies in 97.205 (b), >>the owner is treading on unstable legal ground. >> >>I didn't look at the frequencies the two gentlemen were talking about >>in their messages back and forth (since it looked like they were just >>dragging their local mud into a public forum -- usually not worth >>reading) but in most areas of the country, local bandplans place >>"simplex" operation in an area of (whatever) band that is restricted to >>not allowing repeater operation. >> >>I have no other comment on the thread, other than that... simplex >>frequencies in a local bandplan are usually outside of the bounds of >>where repeaters are allowed to operate by law. >> >>-- >>Nate Duehr, WY0X >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> >> >> > >Ron Wright, N9EE >727-376-6575 >MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS >Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL >No tone, all are welcome. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1069 - Release Date: 10/13/2007 >7:26 PM > > Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
