Some bandplans are specified right in Part 97. As such, the FCC made those.
Joe M. Ron Wright wrote: > > The bandplans are made by Hams, not the FCC and there are many of them. > California has both low in/hi out and hi in/low out repeater pairs on UHF. > Some states use 20 kHz on 146-148 with most using 15. Same on 144.5-145.5. > > Someone can have good engineering practice using what some band plans call > simplex frequencies for a repeater. Not using avialable frequencies that > have little or no usage would not. > > The respect for bandplans comes primarily for interfernce causing problems. > > 73, ron, n9ee/r > > >From: Glenn Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: 2007/10/14 Sun AM 09:07:31 CDT > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater > >Trustee, K6B > > > > >Sorry but band plans are very much supported by the FCC as being in > >conformance with Part 97. > > > >" Section 97.101(a) of the Amateur Radio Service rules refers to "good > >engineering and good amateur practice"--considered to refer to maintaining > >the highest standards of engineering and on-the-air comportment. > > > >According to FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth, good amateur practice > >means: Among other things "respecting band plans..." > > > >This is not a mere gentlemans agreement as it were. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright > >Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:24 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater > >Trustee, K6B > > > >Band plans have 2 requirements...FCC part 97 and gentlemens agreements. The > >latter has no legal basis. > > > >on 2 m repeaters can by FCC 97 use 144.5-145.5 and 146-148. The gentlemens > >agreement may make some freqs simplex or for repeater operation, but still > >one can use for repeaters. Simplex is use so little in many areas and 146.52 > >and maybe a few others in most areas might be used, but are perfectly legal > >for repeater use. > > > >It looks as if the 146.400/147.435 would be acceptable by most and certainly > >by FCC 97. If it works for the community it is in it is for the better. > > > >73, ron, n9ee/r > > > >>From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> > > >>Date: 2007/10/13 Sat PM 11:17:19 CDT > >>To: [email protected] > >><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater > >>Trustee, K6BIV, Responds to NFCC Letter to the FCC > > > >> > >> > >>On Oct 13, 2007, at 8:27 PM, kk2ed wrote: > >> > >>> I'm not condoning such operations, but a Band Plan is just that - a > >>> band plan. If the emitter is otherwise within regulations, a repeater > >>> on simplex channels may be legal, provided it is under proper > >>> control. It is similar to an uncoordinated repeater. Unless it is > >>> causing willful interference, it is not illegal. > >>> > >>> Such practices may not be very popular among the local hams. Bad > >>> practice, yes. Illegal, no. > >> > >>Wrong. Review FCC Part 97.205(b). > >> > >>http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/c.html#205 > >><http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/c.html#205> > >> > >>Repeaters have specific frequencies they are allowed to operate on, and > >>are one of the only types of Amateur Stations with an "exclusionary" > >>rule in Part 97 saying that they can only operate in specific frequency > >>allocations. > >> > >>If those "simplex" channels fall outside the frequencies in 97.205 (b), > >>the owner is treading on unstable legal ground. > >> > >>I didn't look at the frequencies the two gentlemen were talking about > >>in their messages back and forth (since it looked like they were just > >>dragging their local mud into a public forum -- usually not worth > >>reading) but in most areas of the country, local bandplans place > >>"simplex" operation in an area of (whatever) band that is restricted to > >>not allowing repeater operation. > >> > >>I have no other comment on the thread, other than that... simplex > >>frequencies in a local bandplan are usually outside of the bounds of > >>where repeaters are allowed to operate by law. > >> > >>-- > >>Nate Duehr, WY0X > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> > >> > >> > > > >Ron Wright, N9EE > >727-376-6575 > >MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS > >Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL > >No tone, all are welcome. > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG. > >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1069 - Release Date: 10/13/2007 > >7:26 PM > > > > > > Ron Wright, N9EE > 727-376-6575 > MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS > Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL > No tone, all are welcome. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
