>
> Nate Duehr wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Paul Plack wrote:
>>
>>> Manufacturers sometimes market features on new radios without regard
>>> to Part 97. I have an Alinco DR570T, one of the first, if not THE
>>> first, dual-band mobile to feature full duplex crossband repeat. As
>>> designed, it's crossband repeat function was clearly not legal.
>>
>> From your description (and knowing the radio) you mean "bi-
>> directional" (but not at the same time), not "full-duplex" (which
>> means you can go both directions through it at the same time).
>>
>> I'm seeing the term "full-duplex" misused more and more in regards to
>> dual-banders in cross-band repeat mode... did someone publish an
>> article with this less-than-accurate terminology again  
>> somewhere?  :-)
>>
>> --
>> Nate Duehr, WY0X
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:28 PM, MCH wrote:

> Simplex: One frequency - you can either TX or RX, but not both.
>
> Half Duplex - Two frequencies - you can either TX or RX, but not both.
> Your TX frequency is different than your RX frequency.
>
> Full Duplex - Two frequencies - you can RX and TX at the same time.
>
> A repeater is Full Duplex operation. It can RX and TX at the same  
> time.
>
> Bi Directional means you can come in on one frequency and go out the
> second, or come IN the second and go OUT the first.
>
> Joe M.

Hmmm... erg.  Right.   So his terminology for a dual-band mobile that  
can repeat is correct, it's both "full-duplex" from one band to the  
other, and can be user configured to be uni-directional or bi- 
directional.

Okay... so what I'm looking for is a way to describe a system that  
both can do full-duplex while also listening for commands on the "user  
input" which is something a dual-bander can't do... but a real  
repeater fed with the right kinds of links, can do...

Is there a word for that?

Maybe not.  The example I'm thinking of is a hub repeater or link  
connected to a user repeater which are tied together in such a way  
such that either receiver can pass DTMF to either controller (or port  
on a multiport controller) so control can still be maintained, even  
with something transmitting "to" you... hmmm.

I guess that's really just putting two bi-directional full-duplex  
devices back to back, which creates a "system" that's controllable  
even when the link is actively transmitting a signal toward the user  
on the user repeater.

I definitely stand corrected, now I'm just trying to think of a way to  
describe the difference between your typical dual-bander used as a  
"repeater" and a properly built linking system... hmm.

Thinking...

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Nate Duehr, WY0X
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