The stock MSF brain was designed for commercial use and runs the IDer
every 15 minutes. If that parameter was changeable the unit would be legal
under the amateur rules only as long as you had a way to remotely shut it
off (maybe a digital output from the controller on another repeater at the
same site?).

The MSF brain is also very inflexible - you can't change the IDer content,
tone frequency, etc.
For example, one local repeater announces the AC power failure by speaking
"Main Power Fail" when the AC goes away, tags a "BATT" to the end of the
regular IDer, and shortens the normal carrier delay (hang-in timer) 
from 2 seconds
to 1 second.

Personally, I'd set up the MSF as a full duplex continuous duty base
station with no internal IDer and interface an Arcom, NHRC, S-com,
CAT or a RLC into the unit and let it handle the control, repeat audio,
IDer, etc (just like it was designed to).

Everybody has a controller they love, and in some people it's a topic
that gets as passionate as religion. Some people like Link (RLC),
others like Arcom, Scom, NHRC or ACC, others homebrew theirs.
Others buy one and then rewrite the firmware (like on a Palomar
Telcom).

I think my next purchase is going to be an ICS "Linker" controller
(surprisingly cheap for what you get) and do some experimenting
with it.  Everyone I've talked to love them, one guy I know has bought
five, and I'd like to get some hands-on experience with them. I've used
a repeater that has one in it (a GE M2) and the audio sounds
absolutely great (if the carrier delay and IDer wasn't there you'd think
it was simplex).

Mike WA6ILQ.

At 08:05 PM 11/26/07, you wrote:
>What do you need a cwid circuit for?
>
>Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh wrote:
> >
> >
> > Rod!
> > It has arrived!!!
> > I will take some physical measurements and post to the group. I still
> > have to get the eproms programmed, filters tuned, and figure out a CW ID
> > circuit for my call every TEN minutes during useage. "Piece of Cake!"
> > Everything else is functioning, hopefully on the air by the first week
> > in January! I will advise when I get this machine online.
> > Thank You Rod, again, for all your support. Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. also send
> > their Thanks.
> > '73 Charlie Kc5ozh
> >
> > "It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
> > Amateur that holds the license."
> >
> > Charles Mumphrey
> > Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
> > Repeater System:
> > Rowlett Main: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
> > Dallas: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
> > Rowlett II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
> > Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
> > http://www.CharliesElectronics.com <http://www.CharliesElectronics.com>
> >
> >  > -------- Original Message --------
> >  > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Needed: MSF-5000 "Green" TEE Cable
> >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rrath%40charter.net>
> >  > Date: Wed, November 14, 2007 11:36 pm
> >  > To: [email protected]
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> >  > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rrath%40charter.net>
> >  > > Hello to the Group!
> >  > > I have seen this subject come up many times here on our list. Now,
> >  > > looks like I am in need also! I have acquired an analog 
> MSF-5000 with a
> >  > > missing TEE Cable. I plan on using one antenna for this repeater, and
> >  > > hook back original to the internal filter/duplexer and receiver. I was
> >  > > wondering if anyone has had efficient results with making a 
> replacement
> >  > > Combining TLE5732A TEE Cable, instead of paying Mama Mo the suggested
> >  > > retail 214 dollars for one of the 16, NOS, they have left.
> >  > Let me look in my stuff, I think I saw one the other day. I will get
> > back with
> >  > you tomorrow. If I do have one its yours.
> >  > Rod kc7vqr
> >  >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Jay Urish W5GM
>ARRL Life Member        Denton County ARRL VEC
>N5ERS VP/Trustee
>
>Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5
>
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