Here in Portland, Oregon we have group that has about 4-5 two meter repeaters all linked together. They seem to think they need that many repeaters just to cover the metro area. Their repeaters usually have TERRIBLE sounding audio and often have squelching problems. The main person who operates this system sits on the repeater coordination council and keeps scamming more repeater pairs for his group every couple years. Here is their link: http://www.worc.info/worc_system.htm
Often times, their repeaters sit idle. Mean while, the waiting list keeps growing. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:49:05 PM CST From: "Paul Plack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 10 meter desense help, split site, high noise floor. > Nate, > > Where I live, (and every place I have lived,) the 2m band was not crowded with users, only with repeaters. Most repeaters sit idle most of the time, and the more popular machines almost never cool off between 6am and 9pm. > > There's a waiting list for repeater pairs, but there's never a wait to find an open machine for a QSO. > > Personally, I believe that without dirt-cheap 2m radios, we might have lost part of the band years ago. We don't achieve anything close to what the commercial world (and by extension the FCC) considers "crowded." > > 73, > Paul, AE4KR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nate Duehr > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 10 meter desense help, split site, high noise floor. > > > > On Dec 25, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Paul Plack wrote: > > > Keith, we're also stuck with band-planning on other bands which > > didn't anticipate the popularity of FM repeaters. 2m is even more > > screwed up. Why have only 600 kHz offset, when it could have easily > > been double that? Duplexers would have been smaller, less expensive, > > worked better, etc. > > I think 2m is screwed up mostly because manufacturers keep making > radios that are virtually loss-leaders for the band. When you can buy > a 2m 50W mobile for right around $150, and it's $400 to get into a > dual-bander... well, do the math. > > I think the manufacturers are just as responsible for the overcrowding > of VHF as anything. > > Perhaps they should stop doing ultra-cheap VHF rigs and start doing > cheap UHF only rigs. Or 220. Or 900. Or 1.2 GHz. (Yeah, see how > silly that sounds? They're not going to.) > > -- > Nate Duehr, WY0X > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >

