No - not the same VOCODER.  IMBE is a VOCODER.  VSELP is a VOCODER - 
different from and incompatible with IMBE.

Early Motorola digital radios were sold with Motorola's Astro 
proprietary digital voice format which uses the VSELP VOCODER.  After 
APCO released the P25 standard using the IMBE VOCODER, Motorola 
offered that as well.  Both were available for a period of time.  
Subseqently, Motorola has discontinued their original format.

In Motorola terms:

Astro = 9600 BPS C4FM digital voice using the VSELP VOCODER.
Astro25 = 9600 BPS C4FM digital voice meeting the P25 standard and 
using the IMBE VOCODER.

Purchasers of used Motorola digital radios [Astro Spectra, Astro 
Saber, and XTS3000] must be careful that the radio they are buying has 
the features and VOCODER they want.

Newer Motorola digital radios [marketed as Astro25 products] such as 
the XTS5000 and XTL 5000 were never sold with the old Motorola VSELP 
Astro format.

As to whether Motorola Astro VSELP can be used on the ham bands - it 
is simply a digital voice format with no intent to obscure content, so 
it probably would be OK, but why would you want to utilize a dead 
format?


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--- In [email protected], Dan Blasberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

"Since when isn't VSLEP allowed on the ham bands??  It is IMBE just a 
different scheme using the same vocoder."
 


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