Here you goes now, with all my research, thank you very very muccccch Paul.

v44kai.....Joel.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Finch 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat


  Joel,

   

  Here is something else.  This is not on topic except for the fact that the 
product we are talking about uses this as it’s main solvent and we use this 
stuff to seal antennas.  If it’s dangerous everybody needs to know it.

   

  Moderators, if it’s too far off topic lets us know please.  

   

  Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_ethyl_ketone 

   

  Paul

   

   

  Butanone is a manufactured organic chemical. It is a colorless liquid with a 
sharp, sweet odor. It is a ketone, also known as methyl ethyl ketone (MEK).

  Butanone is produced in large quantities. Nearly half of it is used in paints 
and other coatings because it will quickly evaporate. It dissolves many 
substances and is used as a solvent in processes involving gums, resins, 
cellulose acetate and nitrocellulose coatings and in vinyl films. It is also 
used in the synthetic rubber industry, It is used in manufacturing plastics, 
textiles, in the production of paraffin wax, and in household products such as 
lacquer, varnishes, paint remover, a denaturing agent for denatured alcohol, 
glues and as a cleaning agent. It is used for synthesis of methyl ethyl ketone 
peroxide, a catalyst for some polymerization reactions. It is highly flammable. 
It is not considered a large health threat.

  Butanone occurs as a natural product. It is made by some trees and found in 
some fruits and vegetables in small amounts. It is also released to the air 
from car and truck exhausts.

  [edit] Health effects
  The known health effects to people from exposure to butanone are irritation 
of the nose, throat, skin, and eyes. There are no known cases of any humans 
dying from breathing butanone alone. However, if butanone is breathed along 
with other chemicals that damage health, it can increase the amount of damage 
that occurs.

  Serious health effects in animals have been seen only at very high levels. 
When breathed, these effects included birth defects (Schwetz et al. 1991. Fund. 
Appl. Toxicol. 16:742-748), loss of consciousness, and death. When swallowed, 
rats had nervous system effects including drooping eyelids and uncoordinated 
muscle movements. There was no damage to the ability to reproduce. Mice who 
breathed low levels for a short time showed temporary behavioral effects. Mild 
kidney damage was seen in animals that drank water with low levels of butanone 
for a short time.

  There are no long-term studies with animals either breathing or drinking 
butanone.

   

   


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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
v44kai
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:45 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat

   

  Hi Tim,

  What is MEK, I do not know that product, or what it stands for (MEK) but your 
experience is very interesting and encouraging.

   

  v44kai.....Joel.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Tim and Janet 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:25 AM

    Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat

     

    Please believe and listen to these warnings.  

     

    Several years ago I decided to go back to the gym and get back into shape.  
I went to the doctor for a physical which included a blood test.  As part of 
the test they look at two liver enzymes.  One of mine was high just outside the 
normal range.  The doctor said to come back in a month to retest.  The next 
month the first enzyme went higher and the other one went off the scale.  I had 
a liver ultrasound which came back normal.  He then ordered a liver Biopsy.  
Not a pleasant experience!!!  The biopsy came back almost normal other than 
signs of age and a body that had been neglected.  Each blood test after this my 
enzymes started coming back into range.  

     

    When I (we) tried to figure out what had happened the only thing that we 
could link it to was MEK.  I had just finished building a small experimental 
airplane that is made up of aluminum tubing and fabric.  All of the aluminum 
was cleaned with MEK and the glue contained MEK and was thinned with additional 
MEK.  All of this work was done with large opening doors and most of the time 
had a fan running.  Most of the time I did not use gloves.

     

    The facility I work in has MEK banned.  Not due to my experience but 
because of environmental concerns.  MEK is great stuff like a lot of other 
chemicals that we take for granted.  Please use them in accordance with all 
warnings.  By the way MEK is still available by the gallon at Home Depot and 
Lowes locally.  I now ventilate the room wear gloves and a respirator when 
using this product.

     

    I apologize for the long email but wanted to warn those that may expose 
themselves to chemicals.

     

    Tim KB2MFS 

     

     

     

     

    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: [email protected]
    > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:40 AM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat
    >
    > Take it seriously when they say something has been
    > proved to cause cancer. I have a buddy who lost his
    > leg to cancer and they traced it back to a solvent he
    > used as a jet engine mechanic in the Air Force. He
    > managed to live through it, but minus a leg. They
    > proved beyond a doubt that it was the solvent that
    > caused the cancer. Sorry I don't remember just which
    > solvent it was -
    >
    > 73 - Jim W5ZIT

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    Re: Scotchkoat 
    Posted by: "Mike Besemer (WM4B)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   mwbesemer2000 
    Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:52 pm (PST) 
    More than likely the solvent in question was carbontetrachloride. That's
    what was used prior to my AF time (starting in 1981), when we used PD-680.
    We also had trichlorethaline and MEK. 

    Regardless of the solvent in question, if you like your liver (and other
    various parts), you'll wear the appropriate protective gear, avoid the fumes
    and use it properly. 

    Nasty, nasty stuff. all of them.

    de WM4B

    Mike

    Kathleen, GA


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