Doug,

OK - so to simplify (if I understand this correctly) I should feed the "PL
Audio" into the GTX on Pin 11 and keep Voice Audio on Pin 2?

Or even go more simply and just allow the GTX to generate the PL...  Again -
I'm using a ComSpec TP-3200 as my controller.

Thanks!
Mark - N9WYS

-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Doug Bade

I was not monitoring the thread but the answer is 
ALL radios I am aware of require a separate 
CTCSS/PL input into a different port into the 
modulator for CTCSS/PL as the audio circuits have 
a high pass filter which cuts off any audio 
leaking through below 300hz. A received mobiles 
pl tone will be dropped ( although it will be 
decoded and processed accordingly) from the 
repeated audio processed by the controller panel.

If that audio is entered into the mic jack of the 
repeater transmitter, it will again be filtered out.

The encode mod must be fed into the modulator 
separately of the repeater transmitter, from your 
tone panel encode output. If you look at the 
modulator schematic you should see the port where 
the ENCode enters the modulator, it is usually 
into the pll /vco subsystem. as it is normally 
direct FM so DPL can be processed correctly...as 
the radio can normally do both.

If no one can identify the specific connection 
for you, I can pull the manual later and look for 
it. Most REPEATER type systems have a clearly 
identified external port for this but a mobile 
may not be so clearly marked... but it IS there as it is used by the radio..

Alternate plan B is to program the GTX for encode 
and let it's local CPU handle it...

Doug
KD8B
At 10:10 AM 2/2/2008, you wrote:

>No ideas yet on this?
>
>I'm wondering of the mic circuit rolls off the 
>low freqs (where PL would normally be "found") 
>and I need to use the Audio IN pin, or if it 
>really makes any difference?  I suppose I could 
>just take a ride and try it, but if it DOESN'T 
>make any difference I need to examine other 
>options for getting PL back on the output - like 
>reprogramming the radio for PL transmit rather than CSQ.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark - N9WYS
>
>
>
>--- Original Message ---
>
>From: n9wys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:10 PM
>
>OK, I just got my 900 machine back up and 
>running again this morning.  For those who don't 
>remember, this is a MaxTrac Receiver / Com Spec 
>TP-3200 controller / GTX exciter / Motorola STF2520A paging PA arrangement.
>
>Anyhow - the machine had no audio output at all. 
>nada, zilch. only a dead key.  I changed out the 
>GTX and this restored the transmit audio - I can 
>now hear voice audio and the ID-er being passed 
>by the repeater.  However, one problem remains: 
>it is still not encoding PL tone.  (So if you 
>are in the area and plan on using the machine, 
>be sure to use CSQ receive for now.)
>
>I have checked and double-checked the panel 
>programming and output - it is encoding the 
>tone.  What I wonder is if the audio circuit in 
>the GTX is scrubbing off the tone coming from 
>the panel?  If so, I can reprogram the GTX for 
>tone encode on TX, but I'd prefer to use the 
>panel's tone.  (Currently, the GTX is programmed 
>for CSQ transmit.)  Also, I'm using Pin 2 (Ext 
>MIC) for the audio input. should I be using Pin 11 (Flat RX audio) instead?
>
>Is this an issue that was previously referred to 
>on the list - one regarding a factory add-on module/fix??
>
>
>
>Mark - N9WYS
 

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