Eric,
Again thanks for your splendid research.

Looking through the old and new RG214 spec it looks like the Aluminium foil was 
inserted to improve vertical flame performance.

The foil is in the RF cold area behind the 2 shields, however Im sure there are 
instances where this foil will corrode and introduce increasing intermodulation 
with age.
 This is a shame..looks like RG400 is the only way to go with new installs.

Regards 
Ian 
G8PWE
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eric Lemmon 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:38 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] New RG-214 Cable has an aluminum tape layer


  Ian,

  That information is a surprise, because the current listing shows
  MIL-C-17/75F, here:
  <www.dscc.dla.mil/Programs/MilSpec/listdocs.asp?BasicDoc=MIL-DTL-17>

  No, the MIL-C-17/75F (or 75G, if it indeed exists) are RG-214/U designs.
  The "new" cable with the foil-backed polyester layer is identified as
  M17/190-00001. The old "RG" designations are becoming obsolete, which
  complicates identification.

  Since the cable OD has not changed, the same connectors will continue to be
  used. Although I have no official instruction to follow, my personal
  feeling is to crimp the foil layer with the shields to ensure intimate
  contact at each end.

  I'd sure like to know whose idea it was to add an aluminum layer to a fine
  cable like RG-214/U!

  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IM Ashford
  Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:19 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New RG-214 Cable has an aluminum tape layer

  Eric,

  Thanks for doing that research

  I see a cable spec MIL-C-17/75G in my latest suppliers catalogue. Is this
  the new cable to which you refer?

  Also have you seen any information on connectors for this new cable.
  Specifically, do you remove the foil before crimping the braid ?

  Ian 
  G8PWE



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eric Lemmon <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: [email protected]
  <mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:49 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New RG-214 Cable has an aluminum tape
  layer

  The discussion of RG-214/U coaxial cable prompted me to take a look
  at the
  current military specifications, and I was surprised to note that a
  "new"
  version of RG-214/U cable has arrived. This new version has a
  one-mil thick
  polyester tape with an aluminum coating that wraps around the outer
  shield,
  with the aluminum side in contact with the silver-plated shield.

  I have just created a folder in the Files section of this list,
  entitled
  Coaxial Cable Specifications. The Military Specification for
  RG-214/U cable
  is MIL-C-17/75F. There is also a copy of Amendment 1 to that
  specification,
  which makes it inactive for new design and shows RG-214 to be
  replaced by
  M17/190-00001. I included a copy of that spec, as well.

  One might wonder if the "new and improved" cable is more prone to
  PIM from
  dissimilar metals than the original.

  I intend to upload several other specs soon, including RG-58,
  RG-213,
  RG-142, RG-400, etc. Stay tuned...

  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY





   

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