Also keep in mind the application. On a repeater antenna, 3 dB could be a 
deal-breaker. On a link, it might be well worth the tradeoff.

Resistive losses also lower Q, which increases SWR bandwidth. If you have a 
remote base, there may be times when introducing a little loss to gain 
bandwidth might even be desireable.

The military, where efficiency is not a design requirement, has taken this to 
extremes at times. One WWII-era "broadband HF whip" used on Army vehicles was 
an 8-foot whip on a 1 kW dummy resistor. Extremely crude, but it worked!

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote


  The problem with high loss tangent is that you'd never see it as reflected 
  power. You could lose 3 dB or more & never know it.

  Bob NO6B

  At 5/4/2008 04:53, you wrote:

  >Boy, you took a gamble. I'd have been afraid that this action could have
  >either messed up the VSWR or shifted the resonant point of the antenna. Then
  >again, maybe it did and either you don't know that or it wasn't significant.
  >
  >Chuck
  >WB2EDV
  >
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "skipp025" <<mailto:skipp025%40yahoo.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >To: 
  ><<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]>
  >Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 12:19 AM
  >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote
  >
  > > Hi Robert,
  > >
  > > You might get lucky... because they might also have advertised
  > > the dip-it as an insulator material, which means someone was
  > > hopefully looking at the dissipation factor (aka D-Factor) when
  > > the compound was engineered. Time will tell...
  > >
  > > cheers,
  > > skipp
  > >
  > >> "georgiaskywarn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > >> Someone else told me that after I had put a whole can of dip
  > >> it on the db408 I showed you. I went back and covered every
  > >> inch of it with liquid electrical tape. I have had good
  > >> results in the GA sun with it.
  > >> 73,
  > >> Robert
  > >> KD4YDC



   

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