Hey ole man...how is this??? :)

Also it is putting my sig just after my reply instead of at the end.

73, ron, n9ee/r






On Mon, May 12, 2008 at  5:56 PM, John J. Riddell wrote:

 Hey Ron, How about setting your Font back to at least 10 for all the
senior citizens who like to read your  stuff   :-))

73 John VE3AMZ
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Wright <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:34 AM <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Control Receiver without Separate Antenna <mailto:[email protected]>

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I would recommend not using a 12.5 kHz spacing freq in this case of a control receiever, a receiver that is only 12.5 kHz away from your regular repeater input.

With typical good FM analog receivers these would both have overlapping passbands and an input signal on the repeater input would interfer with the control input. With som many using IC type DTMF decoders any interference, just over lapping distorted voice would hender the decoder decoding.

A typical UHF duplexer would have a notch wide enough for a freq +/-25 kHz away. Know this is going to be another repeaters input, but with some research could find is close in distance to you.

I have used control UHF freq that are 6.25 kHz spacing, but these were in the 446 range and on separate antenna. Just had access to this. I used this freq to give some added security.

73, ron, n9ee/r


Ron Wright, N9EE

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On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Laryn Lohman    wrote:

--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:[email protected]> , "John Transue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .>
wrote:

Laryn K8TVZ,
So, if I understand, I should put a splitter after the pre-amp, and the control frequency should be a split channel. Does this mean that I use half way between two channels?

Right, one of the 12.5 kc. in-between channels would be less likely to
have something on them.


Another question, who makes a good splitter, and how can I know I am getting a good splitter?

Well, I've seen 50 ohm splitters quite often at    hamfests.  I don't
have a good brand name to point you to. I am, however, using a 75 ohm TV splitter. Purists will hate this, but especially, if you are after
a preamp, I don't see this as a big deal.  It works    just fine here
with no measured loss in repeater receiver sensitivity    through the
system.  Use quality coax and fittings.  I've    found that RG142 works
reasonably well with the TV splitters since it has a solid    center
conductor.

If you are not using a preamp, then you really need to do    things
right, using a proper splitter, and still you may lose some sensitivity.

Some of you are saying, where's the quality in that splitter    scheme?
Well, experimentally I've found it works well here, so after    initial
measurements showed me that things were still the same, I'll    tend to
stay with what works, but ready to ditch the whole thing if needed and
go another route.  Sometimes <quality> takes the    form of performance,
not looks or perfection.  If system sensitivity had    suffered it
wouldn't be there for more than 15 minutes.

Laryn K8TVZ



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