--- In [email protected], "Willis M. Hagler"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anybody have experience running the DB 404/408/420 type antennas
> down around 440.000mhz transmit? 

High Mark,

First, you didn't say if your planning on ordering one built "on" your
440 freq.,or trying to use a used existing one from some commercial
freq. If your ordering a "NEW" one, it'll work great...right to
spec..Know of 2 clubs that did that. If your going the "used" route...

I've got a friend who is using a 408 now on his repeater whose output
is around 442.500. The antenna works great. But there are some caveats...

First off you will definitely loose some of the gain from the original
"rated specs". About 1.5 - 2 Dbd. is what I'd expect...Maybe a little
worse depending on where the antenna was originally "cut for"... For
example, If the antenna was originally built for say a 454.xxx freq
(center freq) the loss would be less at 442.xxx than one that had been
built for 467.xxx. The antenna typically has a 20Mhz. bandwidth, +/-
10Mhz each side of center freq so you can see that one cut for the
upper 460-ish range would be a little worse than the 450-ish freq.

The next thing that would change would be the "downtilt" rating. This
will increase the more "out-of band" (in your case lower in freq.) you
go, which may be a good thing depending on your particular
situation/use/mounting structure / height /etc. If your looking for
maximum distance, this may be an issue, but if your looking to,or have
a need to "fill-in" lower areas this would help by bringing the
"lobes" down more than original pattern... 


> 
> I like the DB's but unsure how bad the 450mhz matches when trying to
> use it down at 440.000mhz.

Thats easy,..Put a wattmeter on it and check. The 2 I've helped
friends with have typically had less than 250mw reflected with 40-50
watts forward.  They have been very happy with the performance...

Hope this adds some insight to your "search for info"...

Carl
KA9GPX

One thing I can attest to is you've come to the right place to ask
about antenna info.....Just don't mention the word "Scrap" around here
when it comes to Aluminum antennas...;-)

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