Mike,

If you go to the trouble to meter signal strength ahead of the limiter, why 
would you make 1 uV full scale? You could achieve almost the same resolution by 
reading limiter current.

A 1 uV meter "peg" will result in users getting a pat on the back for signals 
which have little margin for fade.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: software repeater controller


  At 12:59 PM 06/19/08, you wrote:
  >Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
  > > Any of the controllers with a analog input can do that.... for
  > > example the Scom 7K can't as it doesn't ave an analog input.
  > > The Arcom 210 can.
  >
  >The S-Com 7330 also has A/D inputs, but the code to read them
  >isn't done yet.

  Yes, there are three analog inputs on the DB25 connector.

  > > The second way to read receiver quieting - but the DC
  > > voltage is backwards - it's at max with no signal and minimum
  > > with a full quieting signal. Some controllers can't handle that
  > > and you end up building up an outboard analog DC voltage
  > > inverter.
  >
  >Which would make NOW a good time to ask for inverted A/D logic as a
  >feature in the code, I assume.
  >
  >:-)
  >
  >Nate WY0X

  Unless there's a use for a backwards meter other than a quieting measurement,
  it probably isn't worth it. On the other hand if an inverter 
  checkbox is simple
  to implement, then it makes sense. The 7330 code is complex enough that
  there is no point in delaying a release due to a feature that 90% of the users
  will never use.

  I was reminded in a private email that's there's a third way to implement a
  signal strength meter... sample the incoming signal after the first gain stage
  in the high IF of the receiver (i..e before the limiters), rectify it 
  to DC with a
  voltage-doubler, and buffer the DC voltage with a variable gain op-amp...
  then diddle the gain so the A-D is at full scale with a 1 microvolt signal at
  the receiver.

  Despite the schematic diagram below being Micor-oriented the technique
  will work on any receiver at any IF frequency.
  See <http://www.repeater-builder.com/micor/micor-s-meter.html>

  No, it won't cause degradation of the received signal.

  Mike WA6ILQ



   

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