Welcome to the wonderful world of duplexers.  When I first started messing with 
repeaters I used nothing more than a signal generator with attenuator and an ht 
with a bar graph signal strength meter. That and a dummy load is the minimum  
you really need to do a decent job.  I replaced a 2 meter receiver with a 
hotter receiver one time and experienced reduced rx coverage much as you 
described, I traced it down to the cable between the transmitter and duplexer. 
This was causing the transmitter to see some reflected power looking into the 
duplexer. As per Wacom manual I started adding a couple inches at a time until 
the reflected power went away. I ended up having to add about six inches to 
what I had. The hamtronics receiver wasn't bothered by the resulting effects 
from the mismatched transmitter load but the Spectrum was. My duplexers were 
tuned at the factory I suppose on a network analyzer that is supposed result in 
a perfect 50 ohm input, trouble is my transmitter was not a perfect match hence 
the reflected power. By adding length to the cable I was making a transformer 
that made the receiver happy.  This may not have anything to do with your 
problem at all. You need to check your antenna match first then see if your 
transmitter is seeing the same SWR when the duplexer is in line it should be 
the same.  You need  a way of quickly turning the transmitter on and off while 
listening to a weak signal. If the signal improves when the transmitter is off 
then you are experiencing de-sense. This could be caused by many things. Bad 
cables or connectors or feed line or duplexer or too much power or spurious 
transmitter or poor receiver or... the list goes on. you need to give us a 
rundown on what your system consists of - what antenna feed line connectors 
cables transmitter and receiver are you using.


tom


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Michael Ryan 
To: [email protected]
Sent: 7/29/2008 11:36:32 PM 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Curious Situation


Rber’s,   I posted a note very early this week about my looking for a someplace 
to get a 220 duplexer tuned in the TAMPA area.  Having not much luck I 
contacted a local MOTOROLA shop and paid $95 for the service.  The receipt 
returned with the cans indicates that the specifications published by WACOM are 
very close.  Having tuned these merely to incoming signals before, peaking them 
while the repeater is still in a testing mode, seemed to return decent results 
but the tune-up was thought to be a better idea.  Not so….  Today’s tune-up 
hardly was worth the wait or the price based on the results.  While a 5 watt HT 
10 miles away could work the repeater, now 25 watts from a roof top antenna is 
now just about full quieting.  Fifteen watts does not make the repeater through 
the same roof top ground plane.  Does logic dictate that we go back to seat of 
the pants tuning and cast fate to the wind?  - Mike
 
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