That assumes that a coordination should last forever once granted. A lot 
of coordinators would have a big problem with that thinking. In some 
areas, a coordination does not expire, but in some, they DO. If it does, 
the person should have no expectation that it's still valid if it has an 
expiration date (just try that argument with your FCC license).

That said, we don't know what happened with the old repeater. If he was 
sent a notice that his coordination expired, then the coordinator has 
all bases covered. I know in my area (where they do not expire) a 
certified letter is sent notifying the person that their coordination is 
no longer valid. That only happens after a long due process. Too often, 
someone just takes a repeater off the air and never tells anyone.

My point is that we are assuming (in all sense of the word) what has 
happened in this case. It's between the trustees, the FRC, and the FCC.

Joe M.

JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> Hi Mike!
> 
> I'm in partial agreement with you also, but there is something wrong with a
> coordination council that coordinates a repeater on a freq that they knew
> already had a repeater on it - even if it is expired.
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:54:47 PM PST
> From: "Mike Mullarkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination
> 
>> HI John,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I agree with to a point but the FCC will first ask the coordinating group
>> witch repeater is coordinated. That is exactly what Bin would do and has
>> done so in Oregon and Washington. If there is another channel available
> take
>> it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>  
>>
>>   _____  
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY
>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:25 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sorry Mike, I disagree. As you know,I spent about 10 years on the ORRC
>> myself,
>> several of those as the database manager.
>>
>> The other repeater was there first. The coordination council either (1) did
>> not have an accurate database and/or (2) did not research it throughly.
> Even
>> if the first repeater's coordination expired, the first repeater station
> was
>> there first and still operating as originally coordinated. There is no
> legal
>> requirement to coordinate repeaters, but the council did know about this
>> individual.
>>
>> Camilo, I suggest find another frequency.
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> Received: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:18:35 PM PST
>> From: "Mike Mullarkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:k7pfj%40comcast.net> net>
>>> The other guy that let his coordination expire is out of luck and needs
> to
>>> vacate the channel. Being a past chairman of the ORRC Oregon Region Relay
>>> Council. If the guy that has had the channel and not followed the buy
> laws
>>> of the FRC and filed update paperwork. Try to work with the other
> repeater
>>> operator and if he is not receptive to change. Assuming you have official
>>> paperwork in hand and a signed coordination. You can contact the NFCC and
>>> let them mediate for you or file official paperwork with the FCC and they
>>> will shut him down since he is not coordinated. Good Luck.
>>  
>>
>>
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