>Daron -

>In a perfect world you would be correct. But unforunately amateur 

>radio coordination is far from perfect.

 

>Regarding some of the systems that the ORRC believe are uncoordinated which

>I am affilated, that is because they do not recognize the 2 other
coordinating

>bodies in Oregon. That is thier problem, not anyone elses. 

 

John your perception continues to be distorted by reality.  Per the NFCC
there appears to be one coordination body in Oregon
(http://www.arrl.org/nfcc/coordinators.htm#38):

 

Oregon 
        Oregon <http://www.orrc.org/>  Region Relay Council, Inc. (ORRC)
<http://www.arrl.org/nfcc/coordinators.htm#buttons>
http://www.arrl.org/nfcc/NFCCbut.gif CERTIFIED  

                 Frequency Coordinations 
                 PO Box 4402 
                 Portland, OR 97208-4402 

Neither the ORRC or the NFCC recognizes any other coordinating body in
Oregon.  While this isn't our problem, the repeater owners who think these
other unincorporated groups are coordinating them could very likely receive
the FCC letter asking them as the uncoordinated repeater to resolve the
interference issue.

 

>If the ORRC had

>been operating professionally and effectively, there would have no reason
to 

>start the other coordination bodies.

 

I honestly can't speak to the operation of the organization back when you
were on the board, but I do understand they had issues.  As I'm sure you are
aware, the group was started in 1976 or so, incorporated in 1985 and has
remained the coordination body in Oregon and SW Washington since.  The
bylaws governing the organization can only be changed by a majority vote of
the membership.  If the governing body is NOT doing what the majority of the
constituents want, then they have the tool to change the rules and they have
many times.  (WOW, sounds like politics)

 

>I'm in partial agreement with you also, but there is something wrong with a
>coordination council that coordinates a repeater on a freq that they knew
>already had a repeater on it - even if it is expired

 

For the coordination system to work correctly, the coordinating body needs
the ability to do their job.  Nothing prohibits you from operating a
repeater anywhere you want that is legal, think of this as 'camping'.
However, when the property owner comes along and wants to build a house on
his property, you may have to camp somewhere else.  If we took the stance
that we were just going to coordinate 'around' all the campers, it would be
very difficult to have a functional system avoiding interference.  Again, if
you have any legal or enforcement precedence that indicates merely occupying
a repeater frequency gives you preference over a coordinated station on the
same frequency, please share that with us so we can all learn.  Those of us
building and operating amateur repeaters are pretty much aware of how this
works, it is a very tough job especially on already full spectrum.

 

So, toss out your old baggage, grab a mitt and get in the game.  The next
meeting date is on the website, come on in and be part of the solution, I'll
even buy you lunch.

 

73

 

Daron N7HQR

Chairman, ORRC, Inc.

 

And.I approve this message.

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