Benjamin L. Naber wrote:
> For those of you who are really doing all they can, this message is not
> for you. It's for those that say they are so busy. So busy with what?
> Really, ask yourself, what makes you sooo busy that you cannot get on
> the air at home or in the car? Even for five damn minutes?

Benjamin -- I think a lot of us do as you do, and get on the air at each 
opportunity.  But if I get on the air on every FM repeater I like to 
talk to people on (who are scattered across many), link up IRLP to 
popular places and say hello to other friends, get on the D-STAR system 
and do the same, fire up 2m SSB and see who's around in THAT group (they 
rarely get on repeaters, that gang), and also play a little on HF...

That's hours a day.

Realistically, I get on ONE of those things about once a day... call it 
five to six times a week.  And look for a good conversation or friends 
to talk to.

That means one person can only cover a very small amount of the time a 
repeater has available to it, each day... so to speak.  Every repeater 
has 86400 seconds a day available to it to provide communications.  I 
can maybe eat up a MAXIMUM on a really long QSO of two hours of KEY DOWN 
on my part... 7200 of those.  It would take 12 people to keep the 
repeater on-air 24/7 at that rate, every single day.  And if I were 
keying down for that long, I'd be considered a "repeater hog", I'm 
sure... but that's because the users all show up at generally the same 
times each day.  See below for more on that.

If we take out the overnight hours, you need 6 hams actively 
transmitting that much (which is too much) to have 12 hours of activity. 
  You also need someone around to receive them and reply... and they 
could be the same people, but that's unlikely.

So you probably need about 12 ACTIVE people on every repeater to make it 
a "busy" system.  12 hams, who talk a lot, every single day.  I think 
the reality is... once you point out that most areas have at least 20 
repeaters of some sort, with some kind of coverage in metro areas -- 
there's so many repeaters, we'll never adequately use the spectrum.

Scanning helps.  I pop over to other people's repeaters all the time. 
Luckily there's little in the way of "taboo" in doing this around here. 
  If it's 2AM and I'm driving home and I hear ANY repeater pair (yes, I 
have ALL of them programmed into one rig) active, I'll either at least 
listen to the QSO or join in.  How many people are bold enough to do 
that on unknown repeaters?  I see it the same as "tuning around on 
HF"... if you're on-air, I'll talk to you that late at night.)

Net's and set "activity times" are almost the only way to find the 
people interested in what you're interested in.  And a lot of people 
turn off their rigs or go to other repeaters if the topic isn't 
something THEY are interested in.

Interesting math for the number of seconds a repeater has "to give" 
every day, isn't it, when you break it down to real operators?

It's amazing we ever find groups to associate with and stick with them 
on specific repeaters other than the fact that the real activity tends 
to "bunch up" around drive time.  Most repeaters sit stone silent during 
the overnight hours, of course.

So where is Repeater-Builder going to build an "always on" on-air 
presence?  Does anyone even want to?  Will we go crazy with end-user 
questions about repeaters?  (Might be fun, might not...)  Anyone willing 
to "park" somewhere?

Nate WY0X

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