Guys, I think the question about whether it decodes to baseband is a 
non-sequitur. A translator is a repeater whose baseband is at RF frequencies 
rather than audio, that's all.

Want to split hairs? A traditional analog repeater relaying formal traffic 
during a net doesn't convert the baseband audio to printed word, then re-code 
it using a text-to-speech converter, either. So, has the repeater been a 
repeater if the message both originated and was delivered in written form, but 
was never decoded all the way down to text during repeat?

The D-Star repeater never receives a voice (phone emission) to decode. It does 
the minimum processing required to reliably pass on a data stream it receives. 
But the high-level block diagram in a communications system looks the same for 
either kind of repeater, and the effect on bandwidth use is the same - double 
that of simplex for a given emissions type.

Tom, I think you're right about transponders/translators from a philisophical 
standpoint, but they have some quirks involving ID, etc, and so unique rules.

A lot of the so-called "gray areas" are nothing more than word-parsing hams 
trying to do something that clearly violates the intent of the rules. The 
pressure to find repeater pairs for digital modes will bring lots of 
word-parsers out of the woodwork. The real answer would be coordination reform 
to clear underutilized or dormant pairs for digital use. It's pretty nuts to 
have an analog repeater for every 1.2 users.

I know, I know... ;^)

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Azlin, N4ZPT 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] FCC Ruling on Repeater 
Definition


  Hi Kris,

  A D-STAR repeater never decodes the voice, it just bit regenerates the
  signal back to the data stream. Yet it is a repeater for sure per the
  FCC. I would say a linear transponder or translator is a repeater also.
  the transmit part is active while the receive part is picking up the
  signal. 73, Tom n4zpt

  Kris Kirby wrote:

  > The only interesting wrinkle in this is that a linear transponder 
  > doesn't "retransmit". The signal is never decoded to baseband and 
  > retransmitted.
  > 
  > Or is it? With I+Q demodulation and remodulation, this could be a point 
  > of argument.
  > 
  > --
  > Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
  > Disinformation Analyst


  

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