I can always tell when the AWACS are flying near our area.... Our C-band 
digital satellite signals crap out every ten seconds or so...

My boss keeps telling me to fix the uplink transmitter.... I keep telling him 
to buy the bandpass filter....

Sorry for the off-topic...

I STILL am looking for a good-FREE software to link two sites via ROIP. I have 
a local LAN with a microwave setup between sites about
2 miles apart. Receiver one end, transmitter the other. Need to send COR and 
audio over ROIP to control TX on the other end. 
Seems like it aught to be simple...

-Jon


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nate Duehr 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Noise on UHF






  On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:

  > The buzz you are hearing on 440 is from airborn radar. I know on the 
  > B52s that they turn on ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) when 
  > leaving the coast and when returning.

  ECM doesn't transmit unless it's attempting to jam incoming "bad 
  things". Otherwise, ECM is a passive system, listening.

  If you'd said they turn on active RADAR, the comment would have made 
  sense, and I'd agree with that. Probably a defensive flying endeavour 
  to help them "see and avoid" the insane amounts of traffic at the 
  coast. Always a nice option for the PLT if you have active radar and 
  can see other people trying to run into you, but they're talking to 
  ATC also... just a secondary information source. More "electronic 
  eyeballs" outside the cockpit...

  Ironically, this indirectly means that UHF Amateur receivers 
  apparently are an excellent way to know when certain military RADAR 
  systems go active, and that in and of itself is a bit of an 
  intelligence coup, if you think about it. Buy an HT if you're 
  wondering if the big iron is up and active... :-)

  Amateurs on the coasts near Naval bases regularly receive 
  unintentional interference from Navy RADAR, inland it's usually 
  aircraft (think about the ERP/power requirements to hear OFF-FREQUENCY 
  UHF noise on your Amateur Repeater... whew... those boys have some 
  power on board!) or fixed installations, and can be DF'ed (if a ground 
  source) right to the antenna. Of course, not all of it is off- 
  frequency... depending on the RADAR or Comm system.

  A number of Colorado Amateurs DF'ed the EPLRS noise at Buckley AFB 
  right up to the antenna (with appropriate permission to be on-base at 
  the time) and later some careful "negotiation" with the system manager 
  included pointing out that if he didn't notch out the Amateur repeater 
  inputs (which the system CAN do, since it's so frequency agile), he 
  was basically "giving away" the dates/times of active training 
  missions to anyone with an Amateur UHF HT talking on a repeater in the 
  area, along with just general begging... I hear that this is very 
  location dependent, and probably also had to do quite a bit with the 
  fact that one of the Amateurs talking to them was a RADAR/SIGINT 
  expert from a past life... I think. He won't say. Hah... those of 
  you who've done those jobs "get it" when I joke about that.

  Anyway, haven't had any EPLRS noise now for many years here in the 
  Denver area... I'm sure one can spin the dial and still hear it in 
  other sections of the band during missions, but not on the repeater 
  inputs... system manager here was SMART and "got it". Active 
  transmitters means others know something useful about what you're up 
  to...

  --
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
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