Thanks for the correction Bob.  I think it was still a little early for me
when I typed that email.

Corey  N3FE

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:14:58 -0700, n...@no6b.com wrote:
> At 8/31/2009 09:03, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>Good Morning/Afternoon Jim!
>>
>>Not sure about the Antenna, I know Randy's (HJC) is working great!  Any 
>>type of double shielded coax/feedline anywhere in the system will cause 
>>problems.  As the temp inside or outside changes it can cause the shield 
>>to rub together and make a lot of noise on the repeater.  Even if it is 
>>used inside on the duplexers...
> 
> This is incorrect.  Silver-plated double-shielded coax is practically the

> standard for duplex interconnects.  Non silver-plated braided coax will 
> generate noise, whether it's double shielded or not, due to the eventual 
> oxidation of the copper & resulting poor intra-braid contact.
> 
>>   I had mentioned to the person you are referring to that I may be able 
>> to find some 1/2" hardline but he thought it may be to weighted for what

>> he is doing...
> 
> This would be a good choice for the duplexer-antenna feed, with RG-214 
> jumpers between the hardline & duplexer/antenna.
> 
> Bob NO6B
> 
> 
>>Corey  N3FE
>>
>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:46:36 -0400, "Chuck Kelsey"
>>wrote:
>> > Sounds like maybe a bad antenna. Don't use the foil/braid cable
>> > anywhere in
>> >
>> > a repeater system.
>> >
>> > Chuck
>> > WB2EDV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "ka2ajh"
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:33 AM
>> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Guys,
>> >> We spent most of yesterday working on a UHF Mastr II Exec. Repeater,
>> >> we
>> >> are using a TRAM 1481 Dual Band Antenna on. This is the high gain 8.3
>> >> dB
>> >> VHF/11.7 UHF. The system uses UHF Repeater, VHF Simplex, and IRLP.
The
>> >> antenna works very poorly on UHF and much better on VHF. The SWR is
>> >> about
>> >>
>> >> 3-1 on both frequencies. The antenna is not DC Ground and there is no
>> >> shorted connectors. Lack of help prevented us from taking the antenna
>> >> down
>> >> and apart at this time. We ran tests by putting the antenna on a
>> >> portable
>> >>
>> >> and working a fixed base and again the VHF pinned the meter and the
>> >> UHF
>> >> was weak, only a couple of S units better than the portable rubber
>> >> duck.
>> >> Has anyone had a similar problem. I understand that the antenna is a
>> >> compromise and not as good as a single band folded dipole for
example,
>> >> but
>> >> several of us have these and they work great except for this one. I
am
>> >> thinking there are enough Tram 1481 out there and someone may have
had
>> >> the
>> >> same problem.
>> >> Also there has been many posts about the LMR400 used in repeater
>> >> service.
>> >>
>> >> It is my understanding that the foil type should NEVER be used
between
>> >> duplexers, from the TX, RX to the Duplexers, but I am not sure about
>> >> between the duplexer and the antenna. Comments please!
>> >> My friend has the LM400 on the repeater mentioned above and I know it
>> >> is
>> >> NOT the present problem as even on simplex the antenna performance on
>> >> 440
>> >>
>> >> very poor.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again an advance for your experiences and thoughts.
>> >>
>> >> 73 JIM  KA2AJH
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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