Hello,

I am new to this group.  A fellow ham recommended I look into this group to 
answer a question I have.  I am also interested in amateur radio equipment 
design and building so this motivated me to join the group as well.  

My question is related to the design of a diplex low band antenna installation. 
 It is described in a Motorola technical publication 68P80100W86-A dated 
9/27/85.  This note describes how to connect two low band antennas (30 to 50 
MHz) to a common coax.  A coaxial cable cutting chart is provided in the note.  
The installation is such that a given length of coax is connected between say a 
30 MHz antenna and a "T" connection and another different given length of coax 
is connected between say a 50 MHz antenna the "T" connection.  The third 
connection of the "T" connection is connected to the radio with an arbitrary 
length of coax.

The cutting chart refers to what they call standard RG-58A/U coax.  For a 30MHz 
and 50MHz antenna installation the chart prescribes a 47 inch length of coax 
for feeding the 30 MHz antenna and a 100 inch length of coax for feeding the 50 
MHz antenna.  My ham friend says these are 1/4 wavelengths of transmission line 
for the opposite band (100 inch is approx 1/4 at 30 MHz and 47 inch is approx 
1/4 at 50 MHz).

Being an analytical guy I modeled the antenna system in both Ansoft Designer 
and an antenna modeling program.  In Ansoft Designer the antennas were modeled 
as a series RLC load with 50 ohms at resonance and a Q of 15.  Transmission 
lines were modeled with VF equal to that of RG-58A/U coax.  In the antenna 
modeling program the antennas were modeled as 1/4 verticals with transmission 
lines having VF=0, antenna spacing of 1 meter, and perfect ground (assuming 
auto metal).  The Motorola note suggests a minimum spacing of 3 feet between 
antennas.

My conclusion was that the values in the Motorola cutting chart for 30 MHz and 
50 MHz antenna diplexor are not optimum.  Much better results are obtained with 
transmission line lengths corresponding to 1/2 wavelengths.  With 1/2 
wavelength transmission line the impedance is repeated.  For 1/4 wavelength 
verticals the out of band impedance is high and with the in band impedance 
being low the total impedance is governed by the in band antenna.

I would like to know what others might know about this 30 MHz and 50 MHz 
diplexor made of coax and what is the basis for the cutting values in the 
Motorola note.  I tried to find information about this system on the Repeater 
Builder site but I could not.

Thank You
Steve Schultz
WB8WGY


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