First position is Local on the fist mode selector. My understanding from all internet research is these kinds of repeaters are used on the forest lookouts. It can be used as low power comm unit or low power repeater. I think standby current is around the 70 ma. If I can find at least some info on the PE High band units I think I can modify the ICOM. And see if I can convert to 2 meters. Every body says the same think it is not easy to work on the PE units and I can see why however I really don't want this nice piece of equipment goes to garbage. I think it is worth to give a try. But 100% agree that without proper documentation it will be impossible.
Levent WW2L --- In [email protected], "Milt" <men...@...> wrote: > > In the second picture in the folder there is a 3 position switch to the left > of the volume control. The center position is marked RPTR and another > position seems to be marked MON. The remaining position marking cannot be > read. What is the marking? > > The term Lookout Repeater is unusual; I recall seeing a Motorola radio > manual marked as being a lookout repeater. The unit was, IIRC, comprised of > modules from the Business Dispatcher. I believe that the functionality of > the unit is unique to a specific type of operation. The use of low power > modules suggests that these units were part of a larger system and possibly > were used as some form of range extenders. > > Now the bad news; the PE series modules used in this radio are not the > easiest to work on. It has been a long time since I dealt with any of the > PE/PY radios but IIRC the frequency sensitive componets were not always on > the circuit board. Moving one of these units from 166 to 146 will involve a > large amount of work. As always if one wishes to start on such an > adventure, manuals are a must along with a knowledge of if and how the unit > functions on the existing frequencies. > > Milt > N3LTQ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lsasmazel" <lsasma...@...> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:19 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > This unit come from Alaska regarding to seller it sat in the boxes and wait > to get deployed. But it never happened. > > Frequencies are ; > > TX : 166.850 Mhz, , 166.850 Mhz > RX: 164.425 Mhz, 164.425 Mhz > > I just figured out that this is one frequency unit :) > > Levent - WW2L > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> wrote: > > > > Levent, > > > > The pictures do lend credence to the "special part" theory. Please advise > > what the two receive and two transmit frequencies are. Do you have any > > idea > > what company or agency owned this device? It's a long shot, but it is > > always (well, sometimes) possible to track down the previous owner, locate > > the radio shop that maintained it, and possibly identify the documents you > > need- if they won't just hand them over. Knowing the frequencies used is > > a > > giant first step in that process. > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:49 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > > > Sorry I forget the mention I put the picture under GE Lookup Repeater > > folder. There ais one more Number I find it is on the back of the unit and > > it is PL19D424600G4 this is on the back of the box. > > > > 73 > > Levent - WW2L > > > > --- In [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Levent, > > > > > > The component number 19C320943G1 is a "SPCL COMP BD". > > > > > > I think it's time to take some pictures of this device, since it seems > > > to > > be > > > an oddball unit that was not a regular production item. Is there no > > > label > > > or tag on the outside of the box, which might give this thing a name or > > > a > > > model number? Without a clear identification of the whole unit, all we > > > can > > > determine is that it is a special part that incorporates some PE > > > handheld > > > modules. > > > > > > Regarding power requirements, a typical 5-watt radio draws about 2 > > > amperes > > > during transmit. Add 1 amp or so for running the controller, and you can > > > assume that a 5-amp supply will suffice. But, be careful to determine > > > what > > > voltage is required to run this thing, before hooking up your favorite > > > Astron power supply. The unit may require 7.5 or 10 VDC, and you don't > > know > > > that without more documentation. > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:06 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric, > > > > > > Thanks for all info. Very interesting data you have I was trying to > > > understand with visual inspection. Even box has 4 position for the > > frequency > > > selection it has only 2 xtal unit on the receiver and 2 xtal unit on the > > TX > > > board. I was thinking that it was switching xtals between TX and RX > > > board. > > > Can you tell me what are the power supply requirements for these units. > > Also > > > at the back there are 3 RF connectors (SO 239) one is marked as RX > > > antenna > > > other is just ANT and the third one which is on the TX board says RX RF > > > IN > > ? > > > I don't have any clue on that. I was thinking to replace OSC xtals with > > ham > > > band ones and also modify or change the RX filter section. May be I am > > > too > > > much simplifying this work!! I have a nice basement lab (collected a lot > > of > > > test equipment from ham feasts and eBay) also my electronic knowledge is > > > good enough to handle any circuits however you are absolutely right on > > this > > > project I was thinking that I am going to deal with classical through > > > the > > > hole components which I was WRONG. > > > > > > The part number "19C3200943G1" is invalid- there can only be six digits > > > between the "C" and the "G" This is my mistake I put one extra zero here > > > correct number is 19C320943G1. > > > > > > Thanks for all help, > > > Levent - WW2L > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I looked through my GE microfiche file, and found very little > > information > > > > that is helpful. From what I did find, your radio is a special device > > that > > > > is based upon the PE handheld transceiver modules. It probably was > > > > custom-made in a small quantity, since there is no record of it in the > > > > microfiche. Only two of the numbers you listed could be traced to an > > LBI: > > > > > > > > 4EF50A11 is a 2F, 5W transmitter for 150.8-174 MHz, and is covered in > > > > LBI-4528. > > > > 4ER59D is a modular receiver for 150.8-174 MHz, and is covered in > > > LBI-30035. > > > > > > > > All of the other numbers have no references at all, except for these > > > > component parts: > > > > > > > > 19C304504G3 is a "DISC" > > > > 19C311876G4 is an "HTF MODULE" > > > > 19D424569G1 is a "REC CONT BD SPL" > > > > 19C327614G1 is a "TX SYST BOARD" > > > > 19C321632G2 is a "BOARD ASM-SPL" > > > > > > > > The part number "19C3200943G1" is invalid- there can only be six > > > > digits > > > > between the "C" and the "G" > > > > > > > > The PE was a very early GE transceiver, and you may find it extremely > > > > difficult to dismantle the modules sufficiently to reach the > > > > components > > > you > > > > need to change to work on 2m. However, if you have plenty of time on > > your > > > > hands, a lot of patience, and a well-equipped workbench, this could be > > an > > > > interesting project. Good luck! > > > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:40 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Eric, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the replay please find the following information; > > > > > > > > COMB. 19D424600G4 > > > > Trans. Model 4EF 50A11 > > > > Rec. Model 4ER 59D > > > > Rec. System 19D424569G1 > > > > > > > > TX Box has PL19C327614G! I think Power Supply is PL19C328204G1 > > > > > > > > I am not sure what is these two cards but I can find this two out of > > > receive > > > > and tx box. > > > > PL19C321632G2 and 19C3200943G1 > > > > > > > > Behind the Box there is one more number PL19D424600G4 > > > > > > > > I couldn't find the receiver carrier boards number. It lookslike it is > > > under > > > > another small PCB > > > > > > > > On the receiver section (piggyback PCB) there are multiple hybrid > > > > (looks > > > > like) boxes; > > > > > > > > PL19C304504G3 > > > > 19C311876G4 > > > > 19D438001G4 > > > > Can you tell me where can I find LBI's ?? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Levent WW2L > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Please provide more information, such as a Combination Number, model > > > > number, > > > > > part numbers of the PC boards, etc. Each printed circuit board > > > > > should > > > have > > > > > a number stamped in black ink along one edge, usually in the form > > > > > "19C321456G4" but different characters, of course. That number may > > > > > be > > > > > preceded by "PL" and may be followed by "REV" and another character. > > > > > > > > > > A "manual" for GE radios is not a single book, but rather is a > > > > > binder > > > that > > > > > is custom-made for each individual radio, containing as many as a > > dozen > > > > > different documents known as "LBIs." There will be one LBI for the > > > > > Oscillator/Multiplier, another one for the Exciter, another one for > > the > > > > > Power Amplifier, and so on. There may be a half-dozen different LBIs > > for > > > > > the PA alone, since each power level PA has its own LBI. Once the > > > > > individual LBIs have been assembled into a binder, it is unique to > > that > > > > > specific radio. The first step is to identify each module in your > > > > repeater, > > > > > then we can advise you which LBIs you need to make up a manual for > > your > > > > > repeater. > > > > > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:42 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just bought an old VHF GE Lookout Repeater from eBay. Any info > > related > > > > to > > > > > convert 2 meter appreciated. If you have service manual with crystal > > > > > calculator it will be more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and 73 > > > > > Levent - WW2L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
