Hey Butch, Please try to send my hotmail account [email protected]. Really appreciated for the info. I think one other member has the same unit from same seller he may also need the same pdf.
Thanks again, Levent WW2L --- In [email protected], Butch Kanvick <hot...@...> wrote: > > > Hello Levent. > > > > I tried to send you an email direct but comcast would not let it through. > > You will need to send the Sicoms to ICM and have them install the xtal and > temperature compensate it. > > Then all you need is the tuning instructions to re-tune it to the ham band. > > If you can stay near 148 it would be the esaiest for you to tune it. > > I might have a pdf of the Loockout Manual. > > What is a good email address and I can forward you the PDF. > > > > Butch, KE7FEL/r > > > > To: [email protected] > From: lsasma...@... > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:18:03 +0000 > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > First position is Local on the fist mode selector. My understanding from all > internet research is these kinds of repeaters are used on the forest > lookouts. It can be used as low power comm unit or low power repeater. I > think standby current is around the 70 ma. If I can find at least some info > on the PE High band units I think I can modify the ICOM. And see if I can > convert to 2 meters. Every body says the same think it is not easy to work on > the PE units and I can see why however I really don't want this nice piece of > equipment goes to garbage. I think it is worth to give a try. But 100% agree > that without proper documentation it will be impossible. > > Levent > WW2L > > --- In [email protected], "Milt" <mengle@> wrote: > > > > In the second picture in the folder there is a 3 position switch to the > > left > > of the volume control. The center position is marked RPTR and another > > position seems to be marked MON. The remaining position marking cannot be > > read. What is the marking? > > > > The term Lookout Repeater is unusual; I recall seeing a Motorola radio > > manual marked as being a lookout repeater. The unit was, IIRC, comprised of > > modules from the Business Dispatcher. I believe that the functionality of > > the unit is unique to a specific type of operation. The use of low power > > modules suggests that these units were part of a larger system and possibly > > were used as some form of range extenders. > > > > Now the bad news; the PE series modules used in this radio are not the > > easiest to work on. It has been a long time since I dealt with any of the > > PE/PY radios but IIRC the frequency sensitive componets were not always on > > the circuit board. Moving one of these units from 166 to 146 will involve a > > large amount of work. As always if one wishes to start on such an > > adventure, manuals are a must along with a knowledge of if and how the unit > > functions on the existing frequencies. > > > > Milt > > N3LTQ > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lsasmazel" <lsasmazel@> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:19 PM > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > This unit come from Alaska regarding to seller it sat in the boxes and wait > > to get deployed. But it never happened. > > > > Frequencies are ; > > > > TX : 166.850 Mhz, , 166.850 Mhz > > RX: 164.425 Mhz, 164.425 Mhz > > > > I just figured out that this is one frequency unit :) > > > > Levent - WW2L > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> wrote: > > > > > > Levent, > > > > > > The pictures do lend credence to the "special part" theory. Please advise > > > what the two receive and two transmit frequencies are. Do you have any > > > idea > > > what company or agency owned this device? It's a long shot, but it is > > > always (well, sometimes) possible to track down the previous owner, locate > > > the radio shop that maintained it, and possibly identify the documents you > > > need- if they won't just hand them over. Knowing the frequencies used is > > > a > > > giant first step in that process. > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:49 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry I forget the mention I put the picture under GE Lookup Repeater > > > folder. There ais one more Number I find it is on the back of the unit and > > > it is PL19D424600G4 this is on the back of the box. > > > > > > 73 > > > Levent - WW2L > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Levent, > > > > > > > > The component number 19C320943G1 is a "SPCL COMP BD". > > > > > > > > I think it's time to take some pictures of this device, since it seems > > > > to > > > be > > > > an oddball unit that was not a regular production item. Is there no > > > > label > > > > or tag on the outside of the box, which might give this thing a name or > > > > a > > > > model number? Without a clear identification of the whole unit, all we > > > > can > > > > determine is that it is a special part that incorporates some PE > > > > handheld > > > > modules. > > > > > > > > Regarding power requirements, a typical 5-watt radio draws about 2 > > > > amperes > > > > during transmit. Add 1 amp or so for running the controller, and you can > > > > assume that a 5-amp supply will suffice. But, be careful to determine > > > > what > > > > voltage is required to run this thing, before hooking up your favorite > > > > Astron power supply. The unit may require 7.5 or 10 VDC, and you don't > > > know > > > > that without more documentation. > > > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:06 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric, > > > > > > > > Thanks for all info. Very interesting data you have I was trying to > > > > understand with visual inspection. Even box has 4 position for the > > > frequency > > > > selection it has only 2 xtal unit on the receiver and 2 xtal unit on the > > > TX > > > > board. I was thinking that it was switching xtals between TX and RX > > > > board. > > > > Can you tell me what are the power supply requirements for these units. > > > Also > > > > at the back there are 3 RF connectors (SO 239) one is marked as RX > > > > antenna > > > > other is just ANT and the third one which is on the TX board says RX RF > > > > IN > > > ? > > > > I don't have any clue on that. I was thinking to replace OSC xtals with > > > ham > > > > band ones and also modify or change the RX filter section. May be I am > > > > too > > > > much simplifying this work!! I have a nice basement lab (collected a lot > > > of > > > > test equipment from ham feasts and eBay) also my electronic knowledge is > > > > good enough to handle any circuits however you are absolutely right on > > > this > > > > project I was thinking that I am going to deal with classical through > > > > the > > > > hole components which I was WRONG. > > > > > > > > The part number "19C3200943G1" is invalid- there can only be six digits > > > > between the "C" and the "G" This is my mistake I put one extra zero here > > > > correct number is 19C320943G1. > > > > > > > > Thanks for all help, > > > > Levent - WW2L > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I looked through my GE microfiche file, and found very little > > > information > > > > > that is helpful. From what I did find, your radio is a special device > > > that > > > > > is based upon the PE handheld transceiver modules. It probably was > > > > > custom-made in a small quantity, since there is no record of it in the > > > > > microfiche. Only two of the numbers you listed could be traced to an > > > LBI: > > > > > > > > > > 4EF50A11 is a 2F, 5W transmitter for 150.8-174 MHz, and is covered in > > > > > LBI-4528. > > > > > 4ER59D is a modular receiver for 150.8-174 MHz, and is covered in > > > > LBI-30035. > > > > > > > > > > All of the other numbers have no references at all, except for these > > > > > component parts: > > > > > > > > > > 19C304504G3 is a "DISC" > > > > > 19C311876G4 is an "HTF MODULE" > > > > > 19D424569G1 is a "REC CONT BD SPL" > > > > > 19C327614G1 is a "TX SYST BOARD" > > > > > 19C321632G2 is a "BOARD ASM-SPL" > > > > > > > > > > The part number "19C3200943G1" is invalid- there can only be six > > > > > digits > > > > > between the "C" and the "G" > > > > > > > > > > The PE was a very early GE transceiver, and you may find it extremely > > > > > difficult to dismantle the modules sufficiently to reach the > > > > > components > > > > you > > > > > need to change to work on 2m. However, if you have plenty of time on > > > your > > > > > hands, a lot of patience, and a well-equipped workbench, this could be > > > an > > > > > interesting project. Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:40 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Lookout Repeater related info > > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Eric, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the replay please find the following information; > > > > > > > > > > COMB. 19D424600G4 > > > > > Trans. Model 4EF 50A11 > > > > > Rec. Model 4ER 59D > > > > > Rec. System 19D424569G1 > > > > > > > > > > TX Box has PL19C327614G! I think Power Supply is PL19C328204G1 > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what is these two cards but I can find this two out of > > > > receive > > > > > and tx box. > > > > > PL19C321632G2 and 19C3200943G1 > > > > > > > > > > Behind the Box there is one more number PL19D424600G4 > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't find the receiver carrier boards number. It lookslike it is > > > > under > > > > > another small PCB > > > > > > > > > > On the receiver section (piggyback PCB) there are multiple hybrid > > > > > (looks > > > > > like) boxes; > > > > > > > > > > PL19C304504G3 > > > > > 19C311876G4 > > > > > 19D438001G4 > > > > > Can you tell me where can I find LBI's ?? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Levent WW2L > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6fly@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Please provide more information, such as a Combination Number, model > > > > > number, > > > > > > part numbers of the PC boards, etc. Each printed circuit board > > > > > > should > > > > have > > > > > > a number stamped in black ink along one edge, usually in the form > > > > > > "19C321456G4" but different characters, of course. That number may > > > > > > be > > > > > > preceded by "PL" and may be followed by "REV" and another character. > > > > > > > > > > > > A "manual" for GE radios is not a single book, but rather is a > > > > > > binder > > > > that > > > > > > is custom-made for each individual radio, containing as many as a > > > dozen > > > > > > different documents known as "LBIs." There will be one LBI for the > > > > > > Oscillator/Multiplier, another one for the Exciter, another one for > > > the > > > > > > Power Amplifier, and so on. There may be a half-dozen different LBIs > > > for > > > > > > the PA alone, since each power level PA has its own LBI. Once the > > > > > > individual LBIs have been assembled into a binder, it is unique to > > > that > > > > > > specific radio. The first step is to identify each module in your > > > > > repeater, > > > > > > then we can advise you which LBIs you need to make up a manual for > > > your > > > > > > repeater. > > > > > > > > > > > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of lsasmazel > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:42 PM > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Lookout Repeater related info needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just bought an old VHF GE Lookout Repeater from eBay. Any info > > > related > > > > > to > > > > > > convert 2 meter appreciated. If you have service manual with crystal > > > > > > calculator it will be more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and 73 > > > > > > Levent - WW2L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
