The main way of thinking is that you want to put the pre-amp after the band 
pass filter.
The reason for this is that if it is before the b/p filter, it amps anything it 
sees, noise and unwanted stuff alike.
If its behind the b/p filter, it only amps the signals that are left and need 
it.

You might need to add a several DB attenuator between the pre amp and the 
receiver to keep from overdriving the front end.

Advanced Receiver Research makes very good low noise preamps as so do several 
other companies.

Hope this helps,
Mike 
Specialized Communications
KB5FLX

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: skipp025 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:36 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement


    


  Hello John, 

  > "W3ML" <w...@...> wrote:
  > Hi, 

  not since high school... :-) 

  > I have now read two different things about where to put 
  > the pre-amp.

  Only two?

  > One says before the Bandpass and one after.
  > What I have now is the 6 can duplexer is hooked to the 
  > bandpass and then on the other side the pre-amp is 
  > connected and then a cable goes from preamp to radio.

  > The other article I read this past week says the preamp 
  > should go between the cans and the bandpass.

  > Which is right? Or does it matter?

  Depends and it does matter... based on how busy your radio 
  site is, where any other rf activity is relative to your 
  frequency, the type of preamplifier, how it's constructed, 
  your receiver front end, your duplexer type with number of 
  cavities, your Tx Power level and a few other tidbits... 

  got a headache yet? 

  I'd venture to say... if your receiver front end is 
  of decent Q (quality) and reasonably narrow band-width 
  along with a decent duplexer... then the preamp might 
  best go after the duplexer, between it and the band-pass 
  cavity. 

  If your receiver front end is average or fairly broad (a 
  few MHz band-width) there might be a case to include the 
  extra band pass cavity after the preamp before the 
  receiver input. Some of this option depends on the duplexer 
  and TX Power Level. 

  The point of what I write above is about trying to obtain 
  the best overload prevention performance and or damage 
  control when the preamplifier is overloaded and generating 
  unwanted signals. 

  Many but not all the variables are are in the list. 

  You could of course try both positions and measure the 
  system performance. 

  s. 



  

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