> >What defines "too much gain" can vary wildly.

Each install would be different. But too much gain 
can be tested for... (measured) and with the proper 
construction be fairly easily controlled. 

> 0.1 uV is about as good as you can do with a NBFM RX, 
> as that's roughly 6 dB above kTB when T=295 K (average 
> earth temperature).

However, few locations manage an average (same year 
round) temperature and rare seems to be the location were 
the terrestrial noise doesn't throw a lead pipe into 
the system performance. There is no noise free 
location, but the level does vary more than people 
would imagine. 

> So I don't see any point in a preamp having more than 
> 14 dB of gain, unless you're adding post-preamp lossy 
> filtering or power splitters.

There are Northern California site locations in operation 
where the Repeater Rx Antenna System contains the desired 
pre-selection, two series pre-amplifiers separated initially 
by an adjustable attenuator and later a fixed value. It's 
beyond the scope of this post (IE right now) to explain 
how the series preamplifier operation is dialed in with the 
attenuator. But the end results compared to a single preamp 
operation are dramatic and obvious. 

I would have never considered a dual series RF Preamplifier 
layout viable until I'd seen one demonstrated against the 
single preamplifier version. The properly installed and 
setup dual preamplifier layout with system gain well in excess 
of 14dB clearly out preforms the rest of the bunch on the 
same mountain top.  I didn't invent it... but I've copied 
the layout many times and it works killer (very well). 

s. 

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