No worries, the more info the better. Echoproducer is the Bees Knees if you are 
running echolink. It is one very impressive and free program. Peter has put a 
lot of work into it.

Scott


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tony KT9AC <kt...@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
> I also would second the "reverse repeater" theory. Years ago (many) we 
> had a repeater in Western PA on 147.165 that would lock up with a 
> Michigan repeater on 147.765 (both rightfully coordinated) and produce 
> the "pipe" sound. In those days (1980s) everyone ran carrier squelch and 
> we had some Lake Erie ducting once in a while.
> 
> Its up to you, but was just a quick workaround that I started doing. 
> Funny thing is I can get the "growl" when the system ran DPL and 
> conditions are right...but its not the repeater since another temporary 
> system I put in did the same thing.
> 
> Sorry to hijack your note with my issue, but was hoping that there would 
> be some commonality and we would both benefit. Thanks for the 
> information on echoproducer, I might look into that.
> 
> Tony
> 
> offtracks1 wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the quick reply
> >
> > The revers pair is a good point.
> >
> > I am in a remote area and did the full coordination but still we have 
> > had some odd ducting here as I am close to 9K mountains and I am at 
> > around 4K feet to start with.
> >
> > Tony I have not ran it without the tx pl. I have a few folks that like 
> > that including myself as I drop the tone before the TX, the controller 
> > is a ICS. But still for testing I may do that. I have echolink so I 
> > hook it up at night to the Ireland conference and set the system to 
> > listen only so I do not interfere with folks. Then with a program 
> > called echoproducer I can log each time the system gets kerchunched. 
> > sometimes its fine other times the log is big.
> >
> > Sorry I failed to put down its on 147.000 TX 147.600 RX.
> >
> > I have a repeater info page off of my weather station site.
> >
> > http://www.josephoregonweather.com/repeater.html 
> > <http://www.josephoregonweather.com/repeater.html>
> >
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>, Tony KT9AC <kt9ac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > > You are not alone in this!! I too have been fighting a problem almost
> > > exactly like this - I've tried different PL tones on RX and TX and that
> > > seemed to keep it from "self-oscillating". Seems to happen more when 
> > the
> > > weather is dry and I describe it as a "growl" sound. Happening on a
> > > MSF5000 at a commercial site. We too have numerous broadcast towers
> > > within 2 miles, and lots of Cellular/PCS antennas around. Mine is on
> > > UHF, yours appears to be high-band VHF (from the TKR-750 K2 note).
> > >
> > > I'm still working on a resolution, but again for now try either split
> > > tone or remove PL from the transmitter (CSQ). It would keep the 
> > repeater
> > > keyed up for several seconds, then drop signal and come back again (as
> > > long as the tail remained with PL output). I've also shortened the hang
> > > timer to 3 seconds to help. It wouldn't bring up the system unless
> > > someone kerchunked it, then it started.
> > >
> > > Tony, KT9AC
> > >
> >
> >
>


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