Here are some of my comments:

In paragraphs 26 and 27, the Commission proposes removing the licensing 
requirement from GMRS, end call signs, and remove station identification.  I 
strongly disagree with the Commission's proposal.  I believe in the license 
requirements of GMRS.  Those who do not want to get a license should use FRS, 
MURS, or another one of the Personal Radio Services that do not require a 
license.  Being that GMRS is the only Personal Radio Service that allows for 
repeater operations, it makes sense that it requires a license.  One of the 
Commissions arguments for removing the licensing requirement is found in 
paragraph 25 where the Commissions states that many people who purchase 
FRS/GMRS combo radios and people who just buy GMRS radios, yet few actually get 
licenses.  There are two flaws with this argument.  First, under Commission 
Rules 47 C.F.R. 95.179, the immediate family of a GMRS licensee is allowed to 
use their license.  I believe that while there are significant unlicensed 
persons on the GMRS frequencies, there is also a lot of licensed persons who 
fail to properly identify their license out of lack of knowledge.  The second 
flaw in the Commissions argument is that solely because people are breaking 
this Federal regulation (having a license and/or failing to identify their 
license) does not mean that the Commission needs to change the regulation.  We 
do not, as a nation, regularly change laws to make those who operate outside of 
the law suddenly inside the law. 

In paragraph 28, the Commission proposes changing the licensing term of GMRS 
from 5-years to 10-years.  I believe the cost is too high presently however.  I 
believe $85.00 for 10-years would be a good improvement and, as the cost per 
year would go down, I believe the license compliance would increase.

In paragraph 29, the Commission proposes removing age requirement of being 
18-years of age or older.  I'm fine with removing this age requirement, as I 
believe anyone who wants to get a license and is willing to abide by the 
Commission's rules should be entitled to be granted a license.  I agree with 
the Commissions finding that there is little benefit of maintaining this age 
requirement. I do support the continued allowance of a Licensees immediate 
family to use their license.

In paragraph 30, the Commission asks about Businesses being able to use GMRS 
frequencies if the licensing requirement is dropped.  I do not support the 
dropping of licensing requirements.  However, if the Commission ends up 
dropping the license requirements, I still do not support businesses using the 
GMRS frequencies for the very reason the Commission pointed to.  Small Business 
can currently use FRS, MURS, and CB radio.  Larger businesses need to be 
encouraged to use the Business Radio service, as that is the reason the 
Commission set these frequencies apart.  If the Commission allows businesses to 
use the GMRS frequencies, then businesses will setup GMRS repeaters and will 
effectively turn GMRS into an unlicensed Business Radio service, preventing 
families and individuals from using the service as envisioned.

In paragraph 15, the Commission says that each of the part 95 services have 
different power outputs.  In paragraph 16, the Commission acknowledges that 
they can't use the same power output for all part 95 services.  Yet, in 
paragraph 32, the Commission proposes setting up portable GMRS devices with a 
maximum ERP of 2-watts.  Yet the Commission is proposing the same power 
requirements that the VHF Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS) currently has.  In the 
"urban canyons" that have been created in many of our nation's cities with 
large buildings 2 or even 4 watts ERP does not travel very far.  There is a 
reason why 4 and 5 watt portable GMRS radios are common and why MURS has not 
been very popular; a portable GMRS radio is of little benefit with only 2 watts 
of power.  If the Commission believes a portable radio needs a power limit, it 
should be at least 5 watts.  The Commissions' proposal meantions that the 
Business/Industry pool in the same frequency range only allows for 2 watts.  
However, there is a different target market.  The Commission also talks about 
the Economics of Scale of limiting the GMRS service to 2 watts, since Canada 
allows for unlicensed radios in the same frequency.  If radio manufactures want 
to take advantage of that, they already can.  Why attempt to force them to?  
There are GMRS repeaters that I use in the Las Vegas area that if I was forced 
to communicate with at 2-watts, I would not be able to get a usable signal from 
my house.

In paragraph 34, the Commission questions if 50-watts of power for base 
stations and repeaters are needed.  I believe that most GMRS base stations use 
the least amount of power possible to make the contact.  If the Commission 
wishes to codify that, they should.  However, if a person wants to talk Simplex 
around a major metropolitan area, 50-watts may be necessary.  I can not speak 
for all areas, but in the areas that I have traveled in Southern California, 
Southern Nevada, and Southern Utah, the GMRS services do not seem to be overly 
crowded.  Especially with the proposal to reduce a Portable GMRS power output, 
I believe that GMRS repeaters are still needed.  Many non-profits and disaster 
groups (CERT, Skywarn, REACT, and various Church Emergency Response groups, 
among others) use GMRS for the simple requirements of getting licenses.  A 
2-watt radio (or 4 watt for the matter) would have a hard time in a disaster 
communicating with each other if they are very far away and with the GMRS 
repeater.  In addition, individual families (including mine) have simple GMRS 
repeaters that we use with our kids so we can talk to them when they are 
playing in the neighborhood.  Even more important is the antenna height.


In paragraphs 36-37, the Commission proposes changing GMRS from its current 
"Wideband" of 25 KHz to "narrowband" of 12.5 KHz.  This change will cause a 
major consumer burden when their current FRS/GMRS radios are suddenly not 
usable.  There will have to be several years to allow this to be implemented, 
during which time, dual FRS/GMRS radios that many consumers purchase will need 
to be able to choose between Wideband and Narrowband.  There will have to be a 
significant educational period explaining the upcoming change, similar to what 
was done with the analog to DTV conversion that the Commission ran for several 
years.  All that being said, I support the switching GMRS from wide band to 
narrow band on the condition that the they use the left over frequency to 
create additional GMRS channels.  (I would support narrowband on FRS for the 
same reason).  These additional GMRS channels should only be usable with 
repeaters and FRS/GMRS combination radios that do not support repeater offsets 
should not be able to use these new GMRS frequencies.  There could also be 
significant costs to GMRS repeater operators as not all GMRS repeaters support 
narrowband.  New equipment manufactured over that last several years appears to 
in preparation for the Business Radio Service going to narrowband.  However, 
equipment that has been in place for several years may not.  For this reason, 
the GMRS wideband to narrowband will need to have at least 5-years from the 
ruling date before the effective date.

I oppose the proposal from Garmin found in paragraphs 40-42.  With possible 
repeaters in these frequencies, this could cause great interference.  This 
service can already be handled on the FRS frequencies.  Another option could be 
to use a few of the newly vacated frequencies from FRS when that service goes 
Narrowband.


--- In [email protected], "John Godfrey <KE5NZY> " <ke5...@...> 
wrote:
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> I did read through the document, but it is very lengthy of course, and I
> guess I missed parts of it. I thought they are proposing to extend the
> licensing period from 5 years on GMRS to 10 years to align it with other
> licensed services such as amateur radio. Did I just totally misread it, and
> can you provide an excerpt from the document that includes your concerns, so
> I might be able to comment in a more intelligent manner.
> 
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> 73 de  John Godfrey
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on GMRS - Fwd: FCC NPRM proposes
> complete part 95 rewrite
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> What is the ERP of a typical 4-watt UHF portable? Pretty close to 2-watts.
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> Bill
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> KB1MGH
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> From: Mike Morris <wa6...@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 6:00:53 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] More on GMRS - Fwd: FCC NPRM proposes complete
> part 95 rewrite
> 
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> >Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:06:17 -0000
> >Subject: FCC NPRM proposes complete part 95 rewrite
> >
> >Just released FCC NPRM proposing a complete rewrite of the entire 
> >Part 95 Rules:
> >NPRM FCC-10-106A1
> >
> >The FCC NPRM requests comment and discussion of their proposed 
> >changes, which, among other things, propose to end the requirement 
> >for licensing in GMRS, LOWER the power allowed (to 2 watts for 
> >portables), potentially remove repeaters, firmly prohibit scrambling 
> >of any kind, and perhaps, prohibit use of radios dual/type accepted 
> >for part 90 and 95!
>


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