Doug -

Do you know how the phasing harness was constructed for the three-element 
version? I don't, and that's why I suggested to Norm that he go with four - 
the phasing harness is easy.

Or, he could use two elements for transmit and one for receive. I don't know 
how much isolation he'll need, but he might just get away without a duplexer 
if there's enough tower.

Chuck
WB2EDV


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Rehman" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB212-3


> In a previous life I managed the communications for a state police agency. 
> We used 45 MHz for our main system and had forty some odd tower sites, 
> almost all running DB212-3 antennas.
>
> Two of the sites were on 1000+ towers and used a single DB-212 element due 
> to the large tower face and the great height. One was a repeater using a 
> receive antenna at 1450' and a transmit antenna at 1350'. The other was a 
> remote base station with the single loop at about 850'.
>
> As we were an investigative agency, almost all of the mobiles were using 
> AM/FM disguise antennas. (Yeah, I know, but we were stuck with the band 
> that the State Division of Communications had dictated...) Despite the 
> radiating dummy load antennas, we had excellent mobile coverage in 
> virtually all of the state.
>
> A consideration for DB212 antennas is that lining them up on one leg can 
> make them pretty directional.
>
> For towers that were very close to the coast, I would put all three 
> elements on a single leg, but skew them so that only one was pointed 
> directly off of the leg. This seemed to give me a somewhat cardioid 
> pattern, but with a little better pattern to the back than if all three 
> elements were in line.
>
> Another consideration is that they were designed to be used on Rohn 
> 45/55/65 sized tower. If you put them all on one leg, a larger tower face 
> doesn't matter much except that the rearward pattern will likely have a 
> larger null. Mounting them on all three legs of a larger face tower will 
> result in reduced gain and a pretty messed up pattern.
>
> I don't know if I'd worry a whole lot about adding a fourth element- the 
> three element antenna will deliver excellent results.
>
> Doug
> K4AC
> (Running for ARRL Southeastern Division Director- please check out my 
> website at www.k4ac.com)

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