Hi,

Recently I attempted a 9km communication via 4W CB radios and a homemade 1/2 wave dipole, from a rural village, to a town. I figured with more power and a low frequency, they might fare better for unlicensed communication. (I am based in the UK.) Unfortunately, I didn't manage a voice signal over that distance. Someone other, who is into amateur radio told me it may be to do with being at the peak of a solar cycle. I have only made contact via CB within the village, and major road where truckers pass. I have tried (thus far unsuccessfully) to make contacts using digital modes such as BPSK31 and JT-65 over FM. I use a CB radio with built in VOX, as it is easier than building the VOX circuitry or PPT switch. I am yet to set up an realtek SDR dongle at the other location so I can try *really* slow PSK to see if I can make a digital link by myself (in voice tests, the other radio did not have VOX). [1]

I am also looking into LoRa transceivers, which claim up to 15km distance. Unfortunately, most actual/web reports only give a 2-5km range.

I visited the local amateur radio club, and they seem to think a extremely efficient and small narrow band signal will tend to travel further, though personally I have doubts if that advantage can be produced in software (eg. the transmitter has to probably be designed for the narrow bandwidth).

I have found a potential method of communicating from/to satellites, but (?legally?) you'd probably need to ask someone for permission to use the network [2] ... tehehe.

The good:

1) satellites
2) *many* ground nodes
3) AX.25 unnumbered frames, meaning truly distributed routing, as opposed to IP.
4) runs on different modulation schemes
5) has bidirectional internet gateways
6) anyone can run a gateway/network
7) can send text messages and other (text messages tested, other not)
8) can run on microcontrollers
9) free as in freedom
10) only cost of setup, else, free as in beer (no connection fee)
11) email servers/gateways exist
12) IP can run atop of AX.25

The bad:

1) Generally uses amateur radio rather than unlicenced frequencies. (though could use other.)
2) Generally uses FM. (though could use other.)
3) Possibility of getting a hobbyist into trouble and worse, getting complete lock-down/regulation.
4) Not generally spread spectrum.
5) easy-to-spoof delivery mechanism

Unknown:

1) voice/images
2) cellular phone network integration


That said, I was also looking at the frequency/distance relationship. Problem is the lower the frequency, the bigger the antenna you need. Obviously you can transmit with a small antenna if the impedance is close (using chokes etc.) but that requires *major* custom hardware, which is somewhat impractical.

I would be interested to see if a ICE40 FPGA could be used as a PWM transmitter/receiver, similar to what was done with the Raspberry Pi. I asked on the free calypso mailing list, and generally speaking, the advice was a GSM modem would be difficult but not impossible with an FPGA. Worth perhaps also noting that the freecalypso project uses TI proprietary software (though the source is available).

I am pretty surprised that the unlicensed link you used in the talk went 39km. I would be interested to know the make and model of the USB transceiver you used. Other people always seem to be able to go real far on little power [7][8], I myself am jealous and have had little success.

Thats me done,


Josh


References:

[1] https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/intek-m-899-vox-multi-standard-cb-transceiver-r52av
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Packet_Reporting_System
[3] https://packages.debian.org/jessie/soundmodem
[4] http://xastir.org/index.php/Main_Page
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fldigi
[6] http://wsjtx.net/
[7] http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots
[8] https://www.pskreporter.info/pskmap.html

On 05/08/17 13:22, Denver Gingerich wrote:
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 08:02:00PM -0400, 宇都 大輝 wrote:
Recently, I have watched the Libreplanet talk by Mr. Gingerich, "A
fully-free cell phone experience, no baseband required"

In case it helps for context, here are the slides and video of the talk:

https://ossguy.com/talks/20170326_libreplanet/
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/a-fully-free-cell-phone-experience-no-baseband-required/

My question is what are your thoughts on using devices like GTA04, Neo
Free Runner, Nokia N900, (and hopefully) Neo900/DragonBox Pyra and a
GNU+Linux distro (eg. Debian/Parabola)? And what might be the issues
that we need to resolve?

I think this might be referring to my comments about preferring non-Android 
OSes around https://ossguy.com/talks/20170326_libreplanet/#slide-25 in the talk 
(I believe that is close to 10 minutes in on the video IIRC).


I'm happy to discuss my talk further if it helps with this conversation. :)

Denver
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