John Summerfield wrote:

>setup is no yast, it's not even close.

I agree.  In fact those RedHat tools are imho a waste of space, and I never 
bother with them - all my RHEL boxes don't have any X11 support, and the text 
mode versions are so inadequate that they just aren't worth bothering with.

It was a culture change for me moving from Suse to RHEL, I am glad I have made 
the switch now, though do miss Yast on occasions, especially when trying to do 
more complex operations that possibly involve manipulating several 
configuration files - restricting users is one of those tasks.

However, there are problems with yast also: Not sure about SLES10, but SLES9 
had some different options in the GUI mode than in the text mode, and I 
sometimes ended up in configuration hell, especially when trying to do some 
advanced topics that Yast then broke - network bonding being one of them.

If I went back to Suse now, I would miss the easy updates that I get with RHEL 
with up2date/yum.

I do think though that RedHat need to look seriously at similar tools - there 
are people who want to use the CLI, but want to move to it using a mix of 
editing configuration files and using pre-existing tools.  There are people who 
don't install X11 on servers for various reasons, but they need to ensure 
colleagues can get in and do what they need to do safely and in a secure 
manner, without compromising the server.  Quite a lot of this can be 
accomplished with the use of Yast.

Andrew.


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