Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:53 -0700
From: "Joshua Daniel Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] RE: Speculation on Red Hat Enterprise Linux
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On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Harrison, Jonathan wrote:
> I also feel there needs to be a server profile.  This is coming from
> someone who personally uses Gentoo, and there is nothing better than
> installing a system and being able to count on both hands and feet the
> number of packages that were installed.

Unfortunately, this is not what Red Hat Enterprise Linux is about. Sure
you can kickstart a relatively minimal system, but you can only choose
those packages that have been preconfigured and prebuilt, so you will
never be able to, for example, choose to use newlib instead of glibc or
choose to not use PAM. Even the most minimal kickstart will have far
more packages than a self-built lean Gentoo built.

I understand this.  What I want is the ability to install a server
profile that has a minimal package set (with the option of no X) that I
could then add what I need.  This seems impossible currently with RHEL
because of the crazy dependencies that a certain package may have.  

A couple of weeks ago I wanted to install samba-client.  Samba-common
was already installed, but was an older version than what yum wanted to
upgrade it to as a dependency for samba-client.  The attempt to upgrade
samba-common was met with a transaction check error.  I thought that the
best course of action would be to remove samba-common and then attempt
to install samba-client again and let yum pull in the dependencies.
When I attempted to remove samba-common, there were bunch of kde related
packages that were also going to be removed, including kde-base.  This
was eventually resolved, but it is absurd.  There is no reason that
samba should be required for kde.

The comparison to Gentoo was simply to illustrate how nice it is to have
a minimal install ready just waiting for me to add what I *need* and
nothing more.

Jonathan


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