On Tue, 19 May 2009, Robin Price II wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Dag Wieers <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Robin Price II wrote:
For RHEL, I would highly suggest using both EPEL and RPMFUSION
together. They do not play nice with the Dag repo installed along side
them. I spoke with Dag a while back regarding the conflicts I was
having but I didn't see much interest to get things cleared up.
Hopefully Dag follows the mailing-list closely and can comment more on
it.
There is no interest from the EPEL side either, which is a shame. When I
started I was basicly the only repository doing packages for Red Hat and
RHEL, that was somewhere in 2003.
Then when Fedora was born there was no interest within the Fedora community
to support a paid-for distribution even when the effort would have been
minimal. That was the main reason why with RPMforge we couldn't work
together with the Fedora project because our main focus was RHEL (and later
also CentOS).
The fact that the Fedora project started EPEL 2 years ago was a slap in the
face since those packages break existing systems that were using RPMforge
(mostly CentOS anyway). Fedora is not adding a repotag, which means we get
to blame when there are package conflicts (people think no repotag means
these packages come from Red Hat).
Also the fact that EPEL is a Fedora initiative is not only confusing, it
tries to bring together two communities that are inherently different :-(
Nowadays, RPMforge is mostly recommended and used on CentOS systems while
EPEL is promoted through the Fedora project and Red Hat.
I like diversity but if it means choice is mutual exclusive everyone
looses.
Thanks for the response. I knew you'd come in and clear up the details. :)
How can the issue be resolved? I don't know how something like this can be
handled since I don't do anything with either repos (or how they are
handled) but I would be willing to be a voice for everyone here.
I don't think it can be resolved without a commitment from both parties.
And since the Fedora project decided to do EPEL at a time when it was easy
to resolve, I don't think there is any hope to have a commitment to
resolve it in the future.
But you know how it is in Open Source, it is easier to start something new
and control it, then to have to agree with an existing party first. Fact
is that you now have (at least) two communities instead of one around
extra packages for RHEL/CentOS and I can only blame the Fedora project
(twice) for this.
I guess I should have applied for a job at Red Hat to be listened to ?
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