On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:50:52AM +0000, John Haxby wrote:
>    2009/12/28 Pasi Kärkkäinen <[1][email protected]>
> 
>      On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:51:59PM +0000, John Haxby wrote:
>      >    2009/12/28 J Newbie <[1][2][email protected]>
>      >
>      >      Btw, any other recommendation for backing up virtual machines.
>      >
>      [snip client-hosted backup]
>      >
> 
>      We'd really need something like Windows VSS, to be able to coordinate
>      the disk snapshots with the apps running in the guest..
> 
>    That is possible and you don't need any especial software to do it.   At
>    least I didn't, not quite anyway.
>

Yes, of course it can be done with custom scripts.

I meant that it would be extremely good to have something similar as VSS
for Linux. Standard method to make safe/consistent backups. No need for
everyone to implement their own scripts :)

-- Pasi

>    I had a shell script that put the applications I was interested in into a
>    "safe" state -- depending on the application this was either a suspend or
>    just shutting it down (sendmail, for that one) -- did a sync and the
>    reported back to the host that the guest was ready for a snapshot.  When
>    the snapshot had been taken the applications were either allowed to
>    continue or restarted as necessary.
> 
>    This isn't perfect: the guest file systems are still marked dirty, but the
>    sync ensures (I hope) that all the data is recoverable.
> 
>    Getting clean file systems would require a change to the kernel so that
>    all disk activity is stopped and the various file systems are briefly
>    marked clean while the snapshot is taken.   I don't know if anyone,
>    anywhere, is looking at that.
> 
>    jch
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