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yes that is true and he is a personal hero of mine, i started the journey to 
conversion on the day he died. i figured if he could give his life for what he 
believed in, i could do what i believed in.
the point is he changed, i don't see the change in arafat or the 70% of the 
palistinians who support suicide bombings and consider any jew a settler and fair game 
for a death squad. when i see that change i will be the first to change my heart. as 
long as there are dead children in front of schools and dead grandparents i won't
they can't even claim there was an excuse for bombing the school. there were no 
soldiers or any leaders of israeli parties there, only children.
you answerd not the question about the charter, how can you deal with people who say 
their only goal is to wipe israel out? they are not working for peace and that is were 
i see the peace parties of israel deluded and working against israel ,they refuse to 
acknowledge it and they think any one who does is just delusional.
i have a copy of their charter, hamas's and they both say to the sea, not two states 
or any thing else but to the sea and they display that with each suicide bomb and 
killing of settlers.

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Hi there Donnella..
Remeber Sadat? He said the same things as Arafat and then he went to
Israel and there was peace (of sorts). Well, no war.

Hank


On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, donnella whitacre wrote:
>
> i feel for the palistinians to hank, but i believe they bring most of
> their own problems on themselves. most of these groups are not aware
> that their activities would result in the distruction of israel but it
> will. the palsitinians can have all the national longings they want but
> not at the expense of israel. they were given jordan, why don't they try
> and collect on that bet instead of trying to take more from israel? they
> are not ready for a country to rule, it will only become a more potent
> form of terrorizm because then they will be a state and harder to get
> rid of then. has any one read the PLO charter, how can you feel for
> people who's express purpose is to free palistine clear to the sea? they
> openly say they want it all, is that not the distruction of israel? how
> can you get around that? they are very open about how they feel, not
> just a state but all of it.
> they did the same thing in jordan in 1972, how can you feel for people
> who were offered citizenship and all rights and turned it down because
> arafat couldn't run every thing? he was offered the job of a prime
> minster . that wasn't good enough for him. and nothing every will unless
> he is in charge.

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