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* they are being killed by lslamic militants. they gave several stories of people , one a man whose children were killed point blank because he sold alcohol in his store. * And by my faith those killers best stock up on marshmallows when they near death. We go through this same semantic nonsense over and over. Just because some nutcases claim to be the Islamic This or the Jihad of That doesn't alter the actual message of Islam. These creatures are working for the avowed enemy of all mankind, and that one is mentioned in all of our scriptures so you know who I mean. * i sure hope our country can keep from being over ridden by any one who wants a coutnry run by religion. we have a seperation of state and religions for a good reason. A "Jewish" homeland? You expect us to buy into that? This has been the same double-think for fifty years. _____ From: donnella whitacre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RHETORIC] Islamic Absolutism that is why all the muslim states are so repressive and can't allow people of other religions to exist. just this morning in the paper,"Iraqi christians are leaving by the thousands in fear of a state run by lslamic law." they are being killed by lslamic militants. they gave several stories of people , one a man whose children were killed point blank because he sold alcohol in his store. one a woman who's beauty parlor was burned to the ground because she refused to close it. that is why their women are so repressed, sorry no truth there. there is not one arab state in the middle east that allows other religions to exist with in its boarders. there is lslamic militancy every were, not just the middle east. phillipines, sudan, morocco, etc. i sure hope our country can keep from being over ridden by any one who wants a coutnry run by religion. we have a seperation of state and religions for a good reason. practice at home , but don't try and force others to it. "G. Waleed Kavalec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 1. Live by the principles of Islam and you will live better. (Not just in the afterlife, HERE too.) 2. We start by ruling ourselves by the tenets of Islam, building the "state" on those principles follows naturally. We CAN co-exist with other systems; look up the Covenant of Medina. 3. I criticize the orthodox schools of Islam long and loud, all the time, on some very public forums. (google in group soc.religion.islam) I live in Richmond, TX and am easy to find. "They" haven't come around yet. (Now if you are talking about today's "Islamic" nations, don't get me started... they ain't no such thing.) 4. Why is Islam the fastest growing religion in the world? BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH. Thanks for the straight line ;-) Peace G. Waleed Kavalec -----Original Message----- From: Defending the Truth discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SHIN Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RHETORIC] Islamic Absolutism |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Dear Friends, I have some questions which I would like explained for a better understanding of Islam because on the internet we hear several differing views and I'm certain many here would like a better understanding of the fastest growing religion in the world. Questions (1) I constantly hear that Islam is a way of life and not just a religion. Can someone here explain the meaning of that statement and how correct is it to say Islam is more than just a religion? (2) Islam isn't like Christianity or Judaism where there is a division of church and state. There is no such thing in Islam. While no central authority since the Caliph ruled all of Islam, there are several devisions within Islam based (A) interpretation and (B) the prophet Muhammad's linage. A division of church and state is pretty much accepted practice in the West. Why can't Islam coexist with secular institutions completely separate from sectarian institutions? Where they do, there is growing discord and many Muslims tell me that these institutions are unnatural and imposed on them. Does anything in Islam specifically mandate against secular dominance? (3) Muslims don't criticize Islam unless they want to go into hiding but anybody can criticize Christianity or Judaism and feel perfectly safe about it. Why won't Islam tolerate dissent, like that which we have in Judaism and in Christianity? (4) Why is Islam the fastest growing religion in the world? I would like to hear various interpretation and explanations of these questions - preferably with citations from credible sources. 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