I'm currently using a custom saga persister that I'd be happy to share, but
it uses NH and I doubt you want to make that a dependency of RSB.  I found
it was simple to write (5 minutes), simple to understand, and it just
works.  I didn't need *extreme* throughput, though, and I expect that's the
case for the vast majority of projects, so my vote is +1 for a simple db
persister.  It's still going to be a hell of a lot more scalable than a
traditional thread hungry ASP NET app.

-tyler

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:

> Right now I am working on the ESB parts of the port, and I am thinking hard
> again about what should and shouldn't be in there.On the one hand, one of
> the major reasons that I created RSB is that I wanted to make something that
> is developer friendly and easy to get started.
> On the other hand, there are some things where we do want to provide
> extensibility and customization for the users.
> For the most part, I think we managed to do that by using the container in
> some clever ways, but with the DHT saga storage I think I really messed it
> up.
> It is complex, both to set it up and to make use of it and to understand
> how it works.
> I have tentatively removed it from the project.
> I would like to provide a saga storage that is easy to use and fit the bill
> for most of the operations that you need, without bringing undue burden for
> the administrator or developer.
>
> Last week I had several discussions with Udi about that, and he pointed out
> that the most commonly used and easiest to reason about is a locked saga
> state. That is, during the execution of a transaction, the state of the saga
> is locked. A common example would be using a DB to handle that while using
> serializable transactions.
>
> I still want to enable the "let us just use this" mode, and I still want to
> avoid dependencies on infrastructure that isn't xcopy deployable.
> We can support this easily if we will utilize only the PHT. But that will
> work for local mode only. We can make use of the DHT, but then we need to
> provide a solution for farm wide locking. A lot of the design behind the DHT
> is based on always on system, because I have a requirement to keep the
> system going while nodes are coming and going. Locking is... interesting in
> this scenario. I would love to hear options about that.
>
> Or, we could just provide a simple DB saga state and let the DB handle that
> and clustering to handle fail over.
>
> >
>

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