The problem is that then you introduce a dependency on NHibernate.Not a
biggie, but I have a fondness for zero dependencies here, just plug & go.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Tyler Burd <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm currently using a custom saga persister that I'd be happy to share, but
> it uses NH and I doubt you want to make that a dependency of RSB.  I found
> it was simple to write (5 minutes), simple to understand, and it just
> works.  I didn't need *extreme* throughput, though, and I expect that's the
> case for the vast majority of projects, so my vote is +1 for a simple db
> persister.  It's still going to be a hell of a lot more scalable than a
> traditional thread hungry ASP NET app.
>
> -tyler
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Right now I am working on the ESB parts of the port, and I am thinking
>> hard again about what should and shouldn't be in there.On the one hand,
>> one of the major reasons that I created RSB is that I wanted to make
>> something that is developer friendly and easy to get started.
>> On the other hand, there are some things where we do want to provide
>> extensibility and customization for the users.
>> For the most part, I think we managed to do that by using the container in
>> some clever ways, but with the DHT saga storage I think I really messed it
>> up.
>> It is complex, both to set it up and to make use of it and to understand
>> how it works.
>> I have tentatively removed it from the project.
>> I would like to provide a saga storage that is easy to use and fit the
>> bill for most of the operations that you need, without bringing undue burden
>> for the administrator or developer.
>>
>> Last week I had several discussions with Udi about that, and he pointed
>> out that the most commonly used and easiest to reason about is a locked saga
>> state. That is, during the execution of a transaction, the state of the saga
>> is locked. A common example would be using a DB to handle that while using
>> serializable transactions.
>>
>> I still want to enable the "let us just use this" mode, and I still want
>> to avoid dependencies on infrastructure that isn't xcopy deployable.
>> We can support this easily if we will utilize only the PHT. But that will
>> work for local mode only. We can make use of the DHT, but then we need to
>> provide a solution for farm wide locking. A lot of the design behind the DHT
>> is based on always on system, because I have a requirement to keep the
>> system going while nodes are coming and going. Locking is... interesting in
>> this scenario. I would love to hear options about that.
>>
>> Or, we could just provide a simple DB saga state and let the DB handle
>> that and clustering to handle fail over.
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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