The problem I have with StrictMock is that it seriously breaks the "Assert
one thing per test" practice.  I have to have an expectation for every
single call that occurs against that interface.  As soon as I have an
interface I make different calls on I am out of luck if I want to follow
this practice.  I prefer to break things up by using a dynamic mock.  The
problem is now that I can't also verify that the mock was called the number
of times I expect.

Another problem I have is with consistency of interface.  DynamicMocks
should probably have a seperate interface that only has Repeat.AtLeast()
instead of Times since you can't actually trust the Times.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:

> Got the failing test, but I would say that this is not a bug, it is a by
> design feature.DynamicMock sole reason for being is that it accepts
> unexpected calls.
> If you want this to work, you need to use StrictMock
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Can you create a failing test, I didn't follow this thread too closely
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Shane C <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've tracked down the code that causes this behavior and it's pretty
>>> deep in the system.  ReplayDynamicMockState is the one making the
>>> decision to ignore the extra call and just return the default value
>>> but the problem is that it relies on
>>> MethodRecordBase.GetRecordedExpectationOrNull to return Null for this
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>> The safest place to make a change would appear to be
>>> ReplayDynamicMockState but this doesn't work because it needs an
>>> expectation so it can tell it to return or throw.  The problem being
>>> that we don't an expectation since the return of a null expectation is
>>> what triggers this behavior.  There appears to be a lot of other code
>>> that all relies on GetRecordedExpectationOrNull  so changing it's
>>> behavior seems like an unsafe idea but I don't see how the problem can
>>> be fixed without doing so.
>>>
>>> Look at the else statement in ReplayDynamicMockState.DoMethodCall to
>>> get a better idea of what I mean...
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 1:07 pm, Shane Courtrille <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Haha I know I did.. I was just hoping someone else would have the time
>>> > so I can spend a little bit of my time with my family.. if not.. then
>>> > I shall follow the Ayende method of "Fix the things that bug you"
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > I think that you just vulanteered
>>> >
>>> > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Shane C <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> Agreed.  This really does not seem like correct behavior.  So who
>>> has
>>> > >> time to create & send Ayende a patch? :D
>>> >
>>> > >> On Feb 17, 12:41 am, ssteinegger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >> > This also means, that Repeat.Times never makes sense on a dynamic
>>> > >> > mock, because it is the same as Repeat.AtLeast (but doesn't say
>>> this).
>>> > >> > Independent of the syntax, this is not so nice. Repeat.Times (or
>>> Once
>>> > >> > or Never) should always be kind of strict.
>>> >
>>> > >> > On 13 Feb., 15:28, Tim Barcz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> > > I'll toss in my two cents....
>>> >
>>> > >> > > If it's a strict mock, should throw an exception....
>>> > >> > > If it's a dynamic mock this is expected.
>>> >
>>> > >> > > If we start treating the syntax different between strict and
>>> dynamic
>>> > >> > > mocks I
>>> > >> > > think the learning curve goes up.  Right now the differences in
>>> > >> > > behavior lie
>>> > >> > > within which mock object you use and NOT the syntax you use on
>>> the
>>> > >> > > mock,
>>> > >> > > which is how I personally prefer it.
>>> >
>>> > >> > > Tim
>>> >
>>> > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, ssteinegger
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> > >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > You're right, I didn't say how it _should_ be, just how it
>>> probably
>>> > >> > > > _is_.
>>> > >> > > > But I could be wrong and it's actually a bug.
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > On 13 Feb., 14:30, andreister <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >> > > > > Yes, but VerifyAllExpectations should address that some
>>> method was
>>> > >> > > > > called *more* than expected.
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > Otherwise Times(x) should have been called "AtLeast(x)" !
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > On Feb 13, 1:58 pm, ssteinegger <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > MockRepository.GenerateMock creates a dynamic mock, which
>>> allows
>>> > >> > > > > > calls
>>> > >> > > > > > that weren't expected. To do this I think you'll need a
>>> strict
>>> > >> > > > > > mock
>>> > >> > > > > > which cannot be created with the static repository.
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > On 13 Feb., 10:43, andreister <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > The previous post "Assert # of times a method was
>>> called"
>>> > >> > > > > > > brings me
>>> > >> > > > to
>>> > >> > > > > > > the following scenario
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > ==================================================
>>> > >> > > > > > > [Test]
>>> > >> > > > > > > public void Test()
>>> > >> > > > > > > {
>>> > >> > > > > > >     var foo = MockRepository.GenerateMock<IFoo>();
>>> > >> > > > > > >     foo.Expect(x => x.Bar()).Repeat.Times(5);
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > >     Boo.Run(foo, 4);
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > >     foo.VerifyAllExpectations();
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > }
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > public class Boo
>>> > >> > > > > > > {
>>> > >> > > > > > >     public static void Run(IFoo foo, int total)
>>> > >> > > > > > >     {
>>> > >> > > > > > >         for (int i = 0; i < total; i++) { foo.Bar(); }
>>> > >> > > > > > >     }
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > }
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > public interface IFoo
>>> > >> > > > > > > {
>>> > >> > > > > > >     void Bar();}
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > ==================================================
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > Obviously, it fails with "Expected #5, Actual #4."
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > However, if we change ".Repeat.Times(5);" to
>>> > >> > > > > > > ".Repeat.Times(2);" it
>>> > >> > > > > > > passes!!? (I would expect a failure with "Expected #2,
>>> Actual
>>> > >> > > > > > > #4.")
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > > It looks like "as designed" behavior, since
>>> > >> > > > > > > UnorderedMethodRecorder.DoGetRecordedExpectationOrNull (
>>> > >> > > >https://rhino-
>>> >
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> tools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rhino-tools/trunk/rhino-mocks/
>>> > >> > > > > > > Rhino.Mocks/MethodRecorders/UnorderedMethodRecorder.cs)
>>> relies
>>> > >> > > > > > > on
>>> > >> > > > > > > "triplet.Expectation.CanAcceptCalls" that is NOT updated
>>> for
>>> > >> > > > > > > EVERY
>>> > >> > > > > > > call... But it's quite confusing.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> >
>

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