Seems to me you guys are lacking any integration tests...true?

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Tom Whittaker <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I have a development manager who wants us to mock almost every single
> component our software change interacts with because he insists that
> we are suppose to completely isolate our unit test from other
> components, which is what he calls a unit test.
>
> We keep telling him that is not how to write unit tests, but he is the
> manager, and so we've been doing it this way.
>
> For example, I agree with the following web page's "Reasons for use"
> of mocks.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_object
>
> Does anyone have the argument that supports the extreme position our
> manager is taking?  Or better yet, a good book or paper that argues
> against this extreme?
>
> From what I've been seeing, it has created poorer quality software
> because we are actually not finding bugs that use our real databases
> and external web services until very late in the process.  We just had
> a feature freeze date, and we found a few major problems that day
> largely because everyone was using mocks, and the mocked systems did
> not behave the way our mocks did, and the higher level functional
> tests created by QA missed a few things that a normal unit test would
> of caught had we not been using mocks for everything.
>
> >
>


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