Hey again,
(Attention: Do not attempt to read this post, unless you are in
possession of *one* of the following: a sense of humor, too much time or
good control over your emotions.)
I just wanted to add to this that your timing is excellent. Today,
theserverside.com will publish a TechTalk with me about RIFE. So there
will certainly be more people checking the framework out. Your
reference will help them to get up and running more easily.
Yeah, that reminds me of something I wanted to add, too.
Basically my train of thought was like this: RIFE is great, how can I
make it even better. *long pause* ... *go get something to eat* ...
*another pause* ... *play tictactoe with my nephew who doesn't know yet
that there is a way to never do worse than a draw* ... you get the idea.
Eventually I thought, well if there is nothing I can improve about the
core code right now, I can still make the framework better by getting
more people to use RIFE. However, for those people to stick to RIFE like
flies to those sticky tapes you hang up and the only thing that they
catch is dust or your f***ing eyelid, which still hurts like a bi***
even today. Anyway, I figured that first we would have to make the
familiarization process even easier for new users. And after another
period of thinking about what can be improved about the documentation on
a structural level I came up with the idea for a Quick Reference.
Therefore the fact that there will be a bunch of curious new potential
users today plays right into my evil plan to make RIFE better than
anything else. Muhahaha. ;)
In short: *You* rock! :P
I'm out,
Stefan :)
PS: Yes, some people have suggested I take on a different job, something
like comedian or journalist. Basically I think they just don't want me
to operate anything that carries some kind of responsibility. But, you
know, programming pays better. Hehe, just kidding. ;)
On 14 Jul 2006, at 08:15, Geert Bevin wrote:
Hi Stefan,
welcome back from your holiday, I hope you had a nice time! This
really is an awesome initiative and I'm sure that it will be
extremely handy as a reference to all the other RIFE users. I'll be
reading over it once in a while to rephrase or correct when it's needed.
Something to consider too is the inclusion of the variants of all the
examples (since it's a reference). So for the element and site
declarations, we could also add an example with Java builders, with
annotations, with groovy, alongside the XML declaration. For template
snippets, we could add all the tag variants. For element
implementations, do service locator and IoC, ...
Anyway, in short: you rock! :-)
Take care,
Geert
On 14 Jul 2006, at 01:42, Stefan Thomas wrote:
Hey guys,
First of all: Sorry for the delay. Basically I wanted to start this
before my vacation, but it just didn't work out. But now I have
finally found the time to go for it.
Now if you're asking yourself: What the **** is he talking about? -
Well, there was a conversation here on this list about RIFE's
documentation and how it misses a quick structured manual for just
looking things up. I promised to go ahead and get something going.
I hereby present to you.... *drumroll* ... RIFE's new Quick Reference:
>> http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/Quick+Reference <<
*applause* ;)
I think it's a solid foundation to build on. I'm pretty tired right
now, so it's not really the best quality yet, but hey, it's a Wiki.
Improve it. Extend it. Add new things. Whatever you want.
Hopefully I will have some time tomorrow, too, to write some more
sections. But the basic idea/format should come across if you take a
look at the sections about Element Definition and Site Structure.
What I'm trying to do with this is create a *repository of short,
straightforward examples which are ordered by topic and explained*.
So anyone who forgot the exact syntax for a submission bean can look
it up without having to search the Cookbook, the Live Users Guide,
the Tips and Tricks, etc or look through the mailing list.
At some point in the future the reference should also aim for
completeness. I think it's a lot easier for those who develop to
write a short example + explanation about a small new feature in the
reference than to demonstrate it in a tutorial. Tutorials are great
to get your foot into the door in a new topic, but eventually you
just want to know the one precise piece of information that you are
looking for and get back to work. That's when you need a reference.
So now, take a look, give me your feedback, start working on it,
whatever you want and lets see whether this develops into something
useful.
Cheers,
Stefan :)
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