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Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: ripe-list <[email protected]> en nombre de Job Snijders <[email protected]> Fecha: jueves, 18 de enero de 2018, 21:01 Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[email protected]> CC: RIPE List <[email protected]> Asunto: Re: [ripe-list] Follow up on the Dubai AGM - RIPE WG Chair meeting vouchers On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 08:41:12PM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list wrote: > To make this clear … I also see another aspect. > > I’m not sure if this is the case for actual co-chair, and of course, > they may not want to comment in the list and we should respect that, > but I recall some cases some time ago. Do you suspect there is a systemic issue that folks can't afford to attend RIPE meetings? We do have the scribes, video stream, chat room and mailing lists to lower the bar to participate. [Jordi] I don’t know if it is affecting many people, or many times, this is something they should say if they wish. Remote participation is very nice, but we know that is not the same. Face-to-face chats are very relevant for anything. > I see a perfect valid case for a co-chair that is willing to > contribute with his time and effort, but is having financial > difficulties for getting the traveling + ticket cost covered (either > by the employer or its own pocket), so I think is fair, at least to > give the option to those co-chairs that need that, to opt for the > free-ticket if we don’t want to apply to all the co-chairs. But what about the working group participants that volunteer their time creating content, write BCPs, give presentations, answering questions, designing requirements, etc? [Jordi] You’re right, many of us are very frequent+constant contributors, but I’m sure the time required for a co-chair is much higher. Ideally, we should compensate all the frequent+constant contributors, may be that increases the participation … but I don’t see how can we that, it's a nice goal, but really complex to apply. I will say an intermediate step is to waive also the registration fee for speakers, that’s feasible. Isn't everyone in RIPE a volunteer? It isn't just the chairs that do 'work' in a working group. Without working group participants, there is no working group. Every participant volunteers to contribute in some way or form, so I'd be careful to segregate chairs from the rest of the community. [Jordi] I think considering this approach of waiving the chairs registration fee a segregation is too extreme … Unless I’m wrong, in all the other RIRs meetings neither chairs, neither speakers pay for the registration fee. I will opt for that also in our meetings without any further thinking. I think is unfair not doing so actually. Kind regards, Job -- Disclaimer: If you receive this message you must clap your hands. Failure to comply will be considered as an act of civil disobedience. ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
