Hi, Jim

On 26/05/2020, 00:30, Jim Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 25 May 2020, at 23:42, Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The concerns that were raised on the ripe-chair-discuss mailing list 
> > haven't been addressed.
> > Rather than prompting for a mandate to "just get on with it", these issues 
> > need to be addressed.    
> With all due respect Nick, no they don’t. The concerns you and others have 
> raised have
> been heard. They don’t have to be addressed. 

Jim, you then go on to quote directly from RFC7282 which says very clearly that 
the concerns DO need to be addressed.

>  To quote from RFC7282:
>  3.  Rough consensus is achieved when all issues are addressed, but not
>   necessarily accommodated


Nick has made some very valid points on the ripe-chair-discuss mailing list, in 
message 
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2020-May/000271.html.
  After just three days of discussion, Daniel shut down the conversation in 
message 
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2020-May/000347.html 
saying the Nomcom needed to 'take a break for a few days'.  Without responding 
to any of the concerns - or 'addressing' them to use your choice of word, or 
even reference to them, Daniel then opens a new thread on an entirely different 
mailing list asking for wide community support to proceed unchanged.

This is not consensus building.  This is not suitable methodology from the 
Chair.  This is disingenuous. 

I would ask those wishing to contribute to this thread to read the 
ripe-chair-discuss thread to familiarise themselves with the complaint.

The pool of talent in the RIPE community is sufficiently large enough to mean 
that the independence of the NCC and Community can be preserved through having 
different people contribute to the work of our committees, working-groups, and 
leadership teams; to say or to behave that this is not the case demonstrates 
contempt.

Andy

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