But this is not law, it is a procedural document, and procedural documents can include suggestions even if national laws often don't.
The argument that it can't contain suggestions just because normal national laws often don't, is extremely silly. -Cynthia On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 1:36 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ < [email protected]> wrote: > That’s my point, we are actually writing “our law” > > > > > > > > Saludos, > > Jordi > > @jordipalet > > > > > > > > El 25/11/21 13:34, "Cynthia Revström" <[email protected]> escribió: > > > > Yes but this is NOT law as Sander said, we are not writing a law here. > > This is a procedural document in a community, not a law. > > > > -Cynthia > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 1:30 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Sander, > > Just count how many proposals have reached consensus even if they have not > got a previous discussion in the list. Is a matter of numbers. > > Law != suggestions, law must be strict and avoid as much as possible > subjective interpretations. > > > El 25/11/21 13:17, "ripe-list en nombre de Sander Steffann" < > [email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: > > Jordi, > > > 4) The text about the "idea" is wrong and untrue. Past experience > doesn't show that. > > No, *your* past behaviour doesn't show that. You just dumping policy > proposals on a mailing list without discussing the idea first is probably > one of the reasons why this paragraph is included, and I STRONGLY support > it. > > > There have been many policy proposals that didn't followed that > process and they are actual policies. The PDP is a set of rules, strict > rules of a process, not "rules and suggestions". We can't mix rules and > suggestions in a formal PDP text. > > Yes we can, we are not writing law. > > Cheers, > Sander > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or > change your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of > the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly > prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the > intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or > use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including > attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal > offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this > communication and delete it. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of > the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly > prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the > intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or > use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including > attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal > offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this > communication and delete it. > >
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