On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:16 AM Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 07:03:29PM +0200, Vesna Manojlovic wrote: > > This is a process performed by volunteers, who have the benefit of the > > community at heart. Please consider volunteering, since you seem to be > > very passionate about justice and fairness. > > Nothing here ensures that the CoC enforcement team will continue to > be manned by positive and caring individuals. > > When this was presented first time, my thought was "this looks more > like a band seeking revenge", and I stated so (and was yelled at). > > I do feel very much at home in the RIPE community, but if we institute > a system without proper balances, I wouldn't feel comfortable anymore. > In essence, what Malcolm said. > > Look at the process through the eyes of someone intent on harming > someone else, through whatever means needed. Is it still good? >
Right now, without the CoC, someone intent on harming someone else could harass the victim with no recourse. Is that good? > > - this kind of process is proven to work in many other communities. > > The "other communities need this" argument has never really rang true > for me. We're not "other communities", we're RIPE. > > > - within RIPE, we had a "lite" version for several years now, called > > "Trusted Contacts" (TC) , and I have been one of the people "appointed" > > to this role: difficult job, so I got a training; it's not perfect to be > > appointed, nor it is perfect that I have kind-of "conflict of interest" > > since I work for RIPE NCC. As TC, we were not "empowered" to take any > > action, partially because we were not selected by the community, > > partially because there was no CoC framework... as we have now. > > This is something I've liked and wholeheartly supported (and while > not *formally* empowered, you were trusted to do the right thing, and > the NCC had all the empowerment it needed to kick out someone from > a RIPE meeting if needed). > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list
