Alex,
this will be my last message today -- taking my own guidelines on
"taking a deep breath" before sending too many messages ;-)
On 14/09/2022 20:43, Alex de Joode wrote:
The *community* should not act outside the law, the *community* should
respect and support basic fundamental rights. This process does not
respect basic fundamental rights
I disagree.
The outcome of the proposed process can have real world consequences.
Consequences that might be unfair maybe even career-ending
This is a hypothetical consequence.
I want to point you out to the _existing_ real-world consequences, and
career-endings that already happened for many of the participants in
technical communities (including RIPE) because of the behaviors that CoC
is trying to prevent or deal with.
Many *women* leave tech industry because of abuse, or micro-aggressions.
We are missing out on the contributions by persons of color, young
people, "people with thin skin"...
People with different views on priviledge do not even consider joining.
The process makes everyone attending an
RIPE event a potential target with no due process, no recourse, a total
absence of fairness totally at the mercy of the CoC, and only the CoC.
I argue that the _absence_ of process is one of the factors that have
resulted in the existing state of (lack of) "diversity & inclusion" in
the RIPE Community.
RIPE Legal can hopefully research what are the potential liabilities for
RIPE, for the organizers of events and for members of the CoC itself.
Thank you, this is a good suggestion.
for damage claims (loss of employment, libel/defamation). You can sue
RIPE, the event or (individual) members of the CoC.
I don't think that this fear should stop us from implementing the
process -- and I expect that these kind of extreme decions will not be
taken lite-ly!
You also state:
/Please consider volunteering, since you seem to be very passionate
about justice and fairness./
When the process has been changed to include fairness and has a high
change of delivering justice I might consider.
I am curious about your suggestions for increasing fairness.
Thank you,
Vesna
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