Hello.

Current RIPE Charging Scheme based upon variable - LIR count. Its nice, but its very unstable value. Its hard to make long term budget policy in so variable situations.

Opposite to LIR count, we have IPv4 count, IPv6 count and ASN count - what are pretty stable, because have specific end amount and cant be changed year-by-year in large scale.

My proposal is:

1) RIPE need to make some reserve funds for compensate some looses due sanctions, banking troubles and etc... for example 5% of total budget.

2) Change Charging Scheme from LIR based to Resource based and spare RIPE budget spending in equal parts. Big LIRs with large amount of resouces - will be pay more (in equal share), LIRs with small amount of resources - will be pay less (in equal share).

We are do some investigation and most largest IPv4 holders in RIPE region is:

orgID - Legal name - Country - IPv4 allocations - IPv4 count
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de.telekom      Deutsche Telekom AG     DE      31      28972544
fr.telecom      Orange S.A.     FR      53      23655168
uk.microsoft    Microsoft Limited       UK      135     16572416
fr.sfr  Societe Francaise Du Radiotelephone - SFR SA    FR      119     16313344
ru.rtk  PJSC Rostelecom RU      468     11123712
uk.bt   British Telecommunications PLC  UK      43      10948608
es.telefonica   TELEFONICA DE ESPANA S.A.U.     ES      43      10806016
uk.ntli Virgin Media Limited    UK      41      9378816
fr.proxad       Free SAS        FR      8       8871936
it.tin  Telecom Italia S.p.A.   IT      10      7996416
it.interbusiness        Telecom Italia S.p.A.   IT      28      7898112
uk.bskyb        Sky UK Limited  UK      23      7240704
fr.bouygtel     Bouygues Telecom SA     FR      16      7098368
uk.tm   EE Limited      UK      17      7037952
tr.telekom      Turk Telekomunikasyon Anonim Sirketi    TR      13      6923264
se.teliase      Telia Company AB        SE      54      6706432
de.mediaways    Telefonica Germany GmbH & Co.OHG    DE      22      6414336
se.swipnet      Tele2 Sverige AB        SE      72      6316032
de.arcor        Vodafone GmbH   DE      24      6136832

If you open their financial reports you will be - their companies without issue can be proportional equal fee for their resources in own.

On 18.04.2024 13:17, Remco van Mook wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I’d like to draw your attention to an article that was just published on RIPE 
Labs, about building a stable future for the RIPE NCC.

As it touches on some very foundational aspects all across the various working 
groups and NCC membership, I thought it important to share, and I would very 
much like to ask everyone for their input and ideas.

In order to not spread the discussion too much across the various mailing 
lists, I suggest that we use the general RIPE list (which I’ve put into the 
reply-to field of this email.

I’m currently in the process of organising a BOF during RIPE 88 on this topic 
as well and am looking forward to a constructive discussion!

Kind regards,

Remco van Mook
RIPE NCC Executive Board




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