GoodVibrations;272796 Wrote: > I'm a bit confused about tagging albums with guest artists. > > For instance. > Aerosmith - O, Yeah! Ultimate Aerosmith Hits. > On one track, Run-D.M.C. appears. > > I have this tagged as: > ARTIST = Aerosmith > ARTIST = Run-D.M.C. > COMPILATION = 0 > TITLE = Walk This Way (Performed By Run-D.M.C.) > > But then Run-D.M.C. appears when I browse artist. And that's a bit > stupid since it's the only song I have with them. > Would It be better to not have the ARTIST = Run-D.M.C. tag, and then > only search in the title if i want to find this band? > > > Another example: > The Band - The Last Waltz. > On this several guest artists appears. > > I have this tagged as: > ALBUMARTIST = The Band > ARTIST = Bob Dylan > ARTIST = The Band > COMPILATION = 0 > TITLE = Forever Young > > When I browse artists, this album appears under Bob Dylan, which is > what I want since I have lots of Dylan albums. > But I can't see that ALBUMARTIST makes any difference. Is it > necessary? > > So what I want essentially is that guest artist appears in the browse > artist list ONLY when I have some albums by them other than the ones > they're guests on. > > Essentially like compilations works. Compilation artists only appears > in the browse artist list when you have an album with the artist only. > > I have the compilation set to 0, since these album aren't compilations, > and I don't want them under Various Artists. > > Does this make any sense at all? > Impossible? > What would be the best tagging-method? > Is ALBUMARTIST superflous?
I don't think your question is really about tagging but about the way that things are processed, if you're wanting the behaviour to change based on how many tracks you have by a particular artist. However, because the way things are processed should be dictated by the organisation, not the other way around, I'm going to discuss the tags that are used for such details. In ID3v2, a guest artist can be represented one of two ways. 1. The primary artist/group can be present in the TPE1 frame, and the guest can be present in the TPE2 frame. TPE1 is the 'Lead artist/Lead performer/Soloist/Performing group'. TPE2 is the 'Band/Orchestra/Accompaniment' In this sense, the guest artist is the accompaniment. 2. The primary artist/group can be present in the TPE1 frame, and the guest can be present in the TMCL frame. TMCL is the 'Musician credits list', which maps the people to their instuments. The down side of this is that the TMCL would be used for the regular band members, so you wouldn't find that the guest was at all distinguished from them. Usually there's no way of knowing that the guest is any more or less important than any other band members or any session musicians that have been used, other than how the track is marketted - it might just be that the 'guest' turned up for a few hours, played or sang some stuff and then left, whereas the session musicians may have been there for days. Anyhow, for simplicity, using the TPE1+TPE2 seems the most sensible method of tagging for guest artists. On the other hand, the example you cite of Walk This Way, it's actually also a cover, so would also have the TOPE frame set to be Aerosmith. For the second example, I'm not sure of the organisation and I don't know how exactly The Band and Bob Dylan relate (even having just read a little about it on allmusic) - whether Dylan is just guest performer on some tracks, or producer, or... what really. So I can't suggest much. As for the core question of how these things are processed; I don't really know how the behaviour can be changed, but at present the distinction between TPE1 and TPE2 is observed by SlimServer as being the difference between the 'ARTIST' and the 'BAND', which isn't quite the same thing - presumably to cater for the 'X and the Y' style of artists. -- gerph ------------------------------------------------------------------------ gerph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1819 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43868 _______________________________________________ ripping mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/ripping
