d6jg wrote: > Lets define a compilation. > > Definition 1 - an album that has tracks which were previously released > on another album or as singles etc but are all by the same artist. This > album might for example be a best of > > Definition 2 - an album containing multiple tracks by multiple different > artists. A Now album for example > > Both definitions are correct and both are in general use. > > However my definition when used in conjunction with LMS is a VA album ie > definition 2.
so this is the first mistake... what is or isn't a compilation is ultimately a subjective judgment. it doesn't matter how you or I define a comp, or if we agree or not, or everyone else for that matter. there are also other valid/reasonable cases not covered by your two examples above; and regardless, the point to takeaway is that if you simply let LMS scan music that lacks BOTH AA tags and / or comp tags, the built in "logic" or rules for detecting a comp will be woefully inaccurate. that is why you DO use AA tags on some of your files, b/c you have to, to fix or correct what LMS did inaccurately. d6jg wrote: > I want my definition 1 compilation albums to appear under the single > artist. Best of Cream should appear under Cream. > > My tagging strategy ensures this is the case. as would mine. d6jg wrote: > When I say I have no albums that contain a compilation tag I mean just > that. None. None with compilation=0 and none with compilation=1. ok, great. its not like there's a prize for that. personally, in my 'strategy' i see adding comp=1 tags as optional. (i never use comp=0) i didn't used to use comp=1 tags but i started for the benefit of other people and other software / devices, not just LMS. LMS is a dead ecosystem afterall. adding a comp=1 tag is just a bonus so those things are identified to LMS, apple, etc, but strictly speaking, not necessary for proper browsing under my system. d6jg wrote: > (I have had situations where some ripping software has initially stuck a > compilation=1 into my album and the result is that when looked at via > New Music the album appears as by VA. Removing the tag will correctly > list it under the AA.) perhaps this is where our disconnect is. the only way i find logical to browse is home > albums, and for me it works as AA > year > albumart. browsing via this method i would see my items under both the AA tag and in the comp category specified in the options; so, meaning in both places. d6jg wrote: > When I say I use multiple AAs I also mean just that. My favourite > example is B.B. King & Eric Clapton, Riding With The King. > It is tagged in mp3tag as follows: > AA - B.B. King & Eric Clapton; B.B. King; Eric Clapton > Track Artist - B.B. King & Eric Clapton > The result is that LMS reads that as 3 separate tags and it therefore > appears in my library under all 3 AAs which is what I want. > > (In the default GUI when you look at the album its a bit messy but > Material - by accident of design - only displays the first AA which is > perfect.) thats np, i don't begrudge you that. i'm for any system that works for you. my replies here though were meant to respond to what the OP was asking for. i don't believe your system speaks to the gathering and sorting he desires. mine does. d6jg wrote: > I do not have and will never have anything where the AA is tagged as > VA as LMS can deal with a definition 2 compilation quite happily if > there is no AA tag in place but the album has multiple track artists. > You mention that there are inconsistencies if this is the case. I have > not experienced any and my library is quite extensive. the inconsistencies i mention, are when you don't use comp tags OR AA tags. nice sleight of hand there. you are resolving some of the inconsistencies by using AA tags only where you have to b/c otherwise LMS gets it wrong. lets say you rip a CD and all the TRACK artists are listed in the tags as "Various Artists" ...in that case you would ALSO succumb to the same bug 9523 i mentioned. its a string conflict, and not just a problem with AA tags, that's just where it happens to occur the most. ***Various Artists is the default value of the LMS setting, but if the user changes that to say: COMPS ...and they have COMPS in their AA or A tags as well, the conflict would now exhibit there. what makes the bug so insidious, is that a lot of rippers put Various Artists in the AA or A tags by default, so the conflict happens out of the box when LMS scans the files, and worse yet, its not an immediately obvious problem to spot, esp if you have a large collection, and even if you spot it, there is nothing to suggest what is causing it or how to fix it. why M.Herger doesn't spend some time on resolving it, i have no idea, i wish he would. d6jg wrote: > I do not use any other music playback software so I do not care whether > Apple Music etc baulks at the lack of any AA. surely you realize LMS is a dead man walking? the OP might care, as might others. my system is basically universal. anyway... as i said to start, i use AA tags to group tracks together and to sort my list. most of the time, my AA tags are the same as my artist tags. if they aren't, it is merely to group and sort the CD where i want it in the list. yes, i have some AA tags that = Various Artists but i also have a lot of other sorting placeholders, like Soundtrack (Film), Soundtrack (Stage), Comedy, or whatever suits my grouping and sorting purposes. the comp tag is basically optional but i use it bc it adds to the experience and universality without taking anything anyway. using: win7 64 + lms 7.9 & duet & ipads w/the logitech app, and ipeng on an ipod http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/various_artists_logic & http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/compilations ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BJW's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58242 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110800
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