The UA-25 is probably closest to what I'm looking for, and looks good on 
paper. Balanced I/O, 24-bit, 96kHz, and balanced I/O - jacks on the back 
but combijacks on the front is nice, and the phono outputs make sense 
when feeding low-end gear.

However, the XLR inputs are only expecting nominal -60 to -20dBu (while 
the jacks can do -36 to +4dBu). So I'm a little unsurprised about 
clipping from professional sources on XLR inputs - which is a shame 
since that's exactly the problem we've got at the moment with these 
rubbish sound cards (worked around at the moment using NetJACK to pipe 
audio from a decent sound card fed from the same source to the other PC 
across the LAN, but not a great long-term fix, especially with 
liquidsoap's... "interesting" JACK behaviour). Of course, there's an 
argument that the fix is an unbalancing transformer or a 20dBu attenuator...

EMU 0202 looks nice, but is unbalanced as far as I can see.

Cheers,
James Harrison


On 26/03/2012 12:46, Wayne Merricks wrote:
> I've played with a few USB cards for various reasons.  Out of all of them
> the EMU 0202 works pretty nicely, the only drawback is I can't remember if
> it is balanced:
>
> http://www.creative.com/emu/products/product.aspx?category=610&pid=15186
>
> Its been going strong for years and survived being bashed about on several
> OBs.  The only thing I don't like is under Linux the monitoring interferes
> with the output (I haven't used it under Windows for a long time).  So
> just don't use the monitoring if you're broadcasting with it.
>
> Its probably an alsamixer setting somewhere but I never bothered to figure
> it out.
>
> I've been using it at the end of a broadcast chain with JACK to do both
> Internet streaming (via Icecast/darkice) and compression with Jamin.  Its
> been running constantly with no interruptions since Christmas.
>
> I've also got an Edirol UA-25 which is solid
> (http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-25/).  I only use it to take a feed
>   from a soft phone (via a laptop) but its doing the job.  It was quite
> touchy about the signal level though and I found that the output from our
> old analog desks (circa 1993) was only just passable without clipping at
> the lowest gain and signal levels.  Its been working for a few years
> either way and was in a box of spares before that.
>
> The Echo Gina 3G was ok once I unmuted the right output in alsamixer (no
> idea why that was muted by default).  I haven't used this long term though
> so I have no idea on reliability.
>
> Finally, I didn't have much luck with an Alesis io 2.  It was a bit fiddly
> to setup (it seemed to distort quite horribly) and then died after 6
> months.  I might have just ended up with a faulty unit but I wouldn't rush
> back to them in a hurry.
>
>
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:51:04 +0100, James Harrison
> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a cheap (sub-£150)
>> sound card, ideally USB, which just has two inputs (optionally two
>> outputs) on XLRs (or jacks), balanced, with the ability to handle
>> pro-level or consumer-level input, no gain or silly nonsense, just a
>> really straightforward rugged ADC (optionally a DAC) with an input level
>> select switch (+8), maybe some little screwdriver-operated gain pots?
>>
>> Just hunting around for cards for a streaming encoder and I simply can't
>> find anything close to this - everything's got big friendly gain knobs
>> or the connectivity sucks or it's absurdly expensive. I'm pretty sure
>> there must be something out there like this, I'm just not looking in the
>> right places. ASI cards are all too expensive for us, even the cheap
>> ones.
>>
>> Any experience on what cards you've gone for in this situation? (It's
>> being fed by a Sonifex DA6G distribution amplifier - the PC sound card
>> we're using presently is turned right down and it's still clipping, as
>> to be expected I suppose...)
>>
>> (USB preferred because the box is a half-height chassis, and USB is a
>> bit more versatile, but I'd be interested in anything - can always
>> rehouse the box...)
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