On Monday 03 February 2014 08:33:25 pm Jim Stewart wrote:

> >Personally, I always liked using a single channel balanced input,
> >and feeding L+ and R- into to it, to obtain L+R out and let the 
> >>differential input do what it does !  
> 
> Hey I do that!   It doesn't always work perfectly as it depends on impedances
> of the inputs and outputs a little,

 Not really any more than any other load, with modern Low-Z out
 and high-Z in. To an extent, yes.
 The real caveat is that you sacrifice the noise immunity afforded
 by balance in the first place. Not recommended for lines longer
 than a few feet.
 Either you have what amounts to an unshielded unbalanced line,
 or ground loop heaven.
 No free lunch.

> and of course only works with "electronic balanced" 
> outputs (two differential amp outputs, no transformer).  
> 
> Also it sure confuses people that come in behind me,
> so I tend to only do in places where nobody is likely to find it! 

 Document, document, document.
 And, since this is so ( surprisingly ) unknown by so many
 "engineers" leave a copy right at the connection.

> >Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 15:18:15 -0800 (PST)

> >For Jim's virtual approach, I would think there should be an effective 
> >baseline phase test one could employ.

 The very best is your ears listening to the mono sum output.

> I've never checked it this closely (I've got an Oscilloscope on my bench I 
> could use, but never felt the need), but one thing for sure I've never heard 
> the "slipping/rolling phase" problems with JackAudio as I used to when 
> mono-ing stereo sources that came from old fashioned tape playback!  Really 
> unless you want to employ a fancy "phase chaser" device or software to 
> continuously correct the source before summing, mixing signals with JackAudio 
>  seems to work fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Then again, I only  do this mix-2-mono stuff for IFB feeds, and other 
> monitoring needs (I have "Cue" buttons on RDAirplay that gets creative with 
> my normal stereo studio monitor speakers - Did I ever tell you Rivendell 
> allowed by to build a broadcast studio without a traditional physical mixing 
> console? We even have one, I just never had a good reason to install it 
> yet!), and "low-grade" (internal use) preview streams.

 We can do things in software never dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio !
 :)

-- 
Cowboy

http://cowboy.cwf1.com

Experience varies directly with equipment ruined.

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